It's certainly refreshing to hear an american so honestly stating USA's interests (oil prices) as a reason for political & military involvement instead of the typical freedom/democracy bullshit speech. I respect that.
If you believe Moore knows everything about political situations, you'll be just as surprised as Qaddafi was when shit hits the fan. Oil is the concern of the people with power. Those without power actually believe in the typical freedom/democracy bullshit. As a result, if there isn't at least a little typical freedom/democracy bullshit in any war we go into, the American government won't last long when attempting it. Mobs who pick up stones generally are made up of the people who don't give a shit about oil.
I do agree that the US soldiers would get involved if directly asked to do so by one side or the other in Saudi. It'd give us a way in without starting a war. Going in without that request wouldn't ever happen though.
That being said, I need to catch up. I've been in a void for 2 days and don't know what the hell is going on in Libya right now but I'm wondering how much longer do they plan to wait before declaring the no fly zone and how will Gadaffi react when that happens.
Qaddafi isn't under any illusions that he will hold out without it, so he'll probably go ballistic. If he has a hidden nuke purchased when the USSR went down, count on it coming out around that time. If I were a reporter in Tripoli, or non-Libyan at all there... Heck, even if I were Libyan and pro-Qaddafi in Tripoli, I'd get the heck out of there in the next 12 hours. That guy bombs civilians that protest while saying he is going to win, imagine what he'll do to people when he learns he's gonna lose!
The protesters are still all over the city. They told Sky News that they are taking it back sometime tonight (which means about now)
People on Twitter says that this has already happened.
This is keeping with the thought process that the al-Qaeda mislead youth are brainwashed by the west into rebelling so they can take his oil.
I'm looking into the other battle claims right now for the coastal fighting. I suspect that the victory ninja move is a myth. People on my twitter say that the government forces in Bin Jawwad are using family members of protesters as human shields.
Oh, AS FOR SOMALIA...
Somalia was the total opposite situation of Libya. There the government disintegrated and people went back to their tribes. In Libya, the tribes have come together to get rid of the government. You have Unity in Libya. In Somalia, you had anarchy, where the warlords ruled. I don't think there is a good example of what Libya is in history. The people rose up in mass without a leader to accomplish a common goal. Of course they got leadership structure now, but still...
Edit:
http://twitter.com/ChangeInLibyaAbout 13 minutes ago via twitter...
Confirmation from Zawia. Centre under control, troops pushed 2-5km out. They captured dozens of mercenaries and killed more #libya #feb17
He says he got it from a friend via satphone.