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Author Topic: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!  (Read 373448 times)

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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1275 on: March 02, 2011, 08:05:33 am »

Update:

Reports of heavy counterattacks in a few spots in the east by pro-Qaddafi forces. So far, reports indicate the rebels have held control of the cities attacked, but with unknown losses. They're also fortifying Benghazi, perhaps in expectation of a major Army offensive against the de facto rebel capitol.

Al Jazeera English and Reuters have some good pics showing heavy weapons training going on in Benghazi. There are hundreds of protesters being trained by the defecting Army personnel in how to operate anti-aircraft guns, 50mm HMG's, etc.

Also, the USS Kearsarge (LHD-3) has crossed the Suez Canal and is headed for a position off the Libyan coast. The Kearsarge is a Wasp-class amphibious assault ship: think "baby aircraft carrier" with one Marine Expeditionary Unit onboard. Not enough (or the right kind) of airpower to enforce a "no-fly zone", but it could certainly attack ground targets or drop an MEU off somewhere along the Libyan coast. Doubt it will be used for that, but at least the threat of it should force Qaddafi to keep some forces in-hand rather than throwing everything he's got left at Benghazi.

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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1276 on: March 02, 2011, 08:38:28 am »

Y'know...it's genuinely satisfying to see al-Qaida grasping at straws to stay relevant. With any luck, they'll wind up the QVC of terrorism:

"But wait, there's more! Commit suicide bombing now and for a limited time only, we throw in two extra virgins in Paradise!"
Not to go offtopic, but whaat is OVC?
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1277 on: March 02, 2011, 08:39:09 am »

Y'know...it's genuinely satisfying to see al-Qaida grasping at straws to stay relevant. With any luck, they'll wind up the QVC of terrorism:

"But wait, there's more! Commit suicide bombing now and for a limited time only, we throw in two extra virgins in Paradise!"
Not to go offtopic, but whaat is OVC?

Exactly!
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1278 on: March 02, 2011, 08:45:40 am »

QVC is one of those "home-shopping" cable channels that pitches mostly tacky, useless junk that no one needs, with an up-tempo sales pitch.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1279 on: March 02, 2011, 09:23:32 am »

Kadhafi just threatened to sell the oil to the Chinese instead of the Europeans and Americans. He doesn't know it yet but he's dead.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1280 on: March 02, 2011, 09:29:11 am »

Meh. Weak-ass attempt to get the Chinese to break out the veto stick in the UN Security Council. Don't see it working. The strategic calculus is such that even if Qaddafi was giving away that oil, it wouldn't be worth the problems the PRC would run into for going aginst a pretty united world opinion. And Beijing is shrewd enough to make that calculation.

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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1281 on: March 02, 2011, 09:52:05 am »

Also Qaddafi barely controls any of the oil fields at the moment. He tried to retake an oil refinery/shipping terminal today, but the attempt seems to be failing hard.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1282 on: March 02, 2011, 10:00:05 am »

Over here in Belgium, everyone is busy fighting each other to decide whose fault it was if we sold weapons to Qaddafi a few years ago. Of course, that means that there is no talk of doing anything (We cannot enfore a no fly zone, be we sure as hell could send a plane with doctors and medicine.)
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1283 on: March 02, 2011, 10:19:30 am »

Over here in Belgium, everyone is busy fighting each other to decide whose fault it was if we sold weapons to Qaddafi a few years ago.
How sweet that you care. Your northern neighbours don't seem to care at all that we sold and are still selling loads of ammo and weapons to dictators.  ::)
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1284 on: March 02, 2011, 10:21:42 am »

We'd first need a minister of foreign relation or something...
Right now who would take the decision ?
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1285 on: March 02, 2011, 10:32:30 am »

Also Qaddafi barely controls any of the oil fields at the moment. He tried to retake an oil refinery/shipping terminal today, but the attempt seems to be failing hard.
The only reason the 'protesters' are not selling the oil themselves is because the thing is hardwired to his account or something and they are trying to crack that.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1286 on: March 02, 2011, 01:27:43 pm »

The biggest problem with Revolution Explosion in the Mideast 3.0 Extreme is that some of the story arcs are just left hanging. How is it going Tunisia? Egypt got a constitution yet? Its a classic case of Cerberus Syndrome, they went all darker and edgier with the Qaddaffi genocidal villain story and forgot about the lighter and more upbeat stories from the beginning.

Sorry guys. I been catching up on web comics and reading tvtropes. My morbid humor may be inappropriate.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1287 on: March 02, 2011, 01:33:24 pm »

I'm pretty sure we can upgrade them to rebels.

Protesting usually comes down to something basic, people gathering to protest, which may or may not become a riot with small groups / random people bringing along a weapon or two.

They are drilling and training volunteer forces and arming them with weapons, with the full intent of fighting and probably dying for their cause.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1288 on: March 02, 2011, 01:39:49 pm »

Loosely related:
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1289 on: March 02, 2011, 02:00:07 pm »

I'm pretty sure we can upgrade them to rebels.
I know, I just like the whole careful wording used with them so I'll just call them 'protesters' with quotes from now on.
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