Where are you getting this 94% figure from? The population of women is 50-51%, not 94?
The population of women is 50%, the women death toll percentage is 6%. i am not entirely sure what you are missing here. this is the base of my argument.
And yes, I think that their cultural differences in women being allowed to roam around in public ABSOLUTELY explains that big of a difference (between 50% born and 6% killed). Here is a pretty representative google image shot of a crowd of Palestinians:
http://azjewishpost.com/files/Palestinians.jpg
here is a representative picture of normal life in gaza.
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2009/08/30/gaza_street_scene.jpgWe both know none of this pictures prove anything.
In reality, it is true that more women stay at home than men, but not on a scale so big that it should make the figure 94/6 of men/women civilian casualties.
Edit: Btw, this bring another interesting and sad discussion about women participating protests. in the arab world, women tend to avoid big, heated protests because the number of sexual harrasments and rape rates rise significantly within those. there several studies on this phenomenon from egypt/palestine/syria and other arab countries.
Assuming the Israeli state has absolutely no incentive to fudge their numbers, even if they do have such data fully available *eyeroll* this still gives no indication of HOW MUCH to adjust down the palestinian numbers. By 3%? By 30%? What? If there's no magnitude implied, then this doesn't tell us much of anything useful for drawing moral conclusions.
The israeli state does not skew the israeli numbers. and as i told you, Betzelem has multiple sources to compare from different branches of the state.
What magnitude to adjust down at the palestinian side is a different story and that is a number that is also more or less obtainable through "CAMERA". in essence, around 60-70% of the reported civilians have actually been killed performing an offensive action or are combatives that were killed outside combat. (again, mind you, this numbers do not involve the latest conflict which seen a larger percentage of civilians killed on the palestine side)
The argument here is that people outright attacking folks shouldn't get counted as civilians. Okay, that's fair, but that's a DIFFERENT standard than "Do they have an Israeli ID number?" on the other side. Somebody attacking doesn't mean they're government-backed or a soldier, or vice versa.
You have to be consistent. If you want to count "offensively acting person" as a non-civilian, you have to do that for both sides, and both sets of numbers are going to be wrong, because I'm sure there are israelis that are not government-endorsed who commit violences, as well as government forces who weren't being offensive who got killed but were still soldiers. And you'd also not get to include hamas soldiers if they were not actively attacking when killed.
There was never a standard of them having an Israeli ID number! the id number was just a means to tell you that in israel this data is completely obtainable. like in the U.S, Germany, Italy, UK and any other western country.
When citing civilians numbers, the usual mental connection is a citing of INNOCENT civilians. so yes, civilians that are killed while performing an offensive attack cannot be considered mere civilians because that gives the false impression of larger number of innocent civilian casualties.
No one maintains that a soldier that get killed without being offensive right this minute is considered a civilian casualty. Betzelem included all military personnel as military, so it should have included all Hamas/Fatah/Whatever operatives as combatants casualties.
So that really does leave the question of israeli offensive civilians casualties, but without getting too deep into data, i am pretty certain its less than 10 people.
I'm still waiting on an answer to my allegation that the leadership of Israel intends to force the Palestinians entirely out of the area and seize the whole place for themselves.
Answer by who? you don't really expect me answer such a claim seriously?
Oh, it doesn't justify. but in the context of GG latest posts here, we can conclude that his purpose was to show how immoral and barbaric israelis/jews are. my question of difference was more of a question of why he had the urge to point out the israeli fallacies, while COMPLETELY ignoring the palestinians ones that are far worse even in this context.
Heh, legally speaking- were the violent protesters protesting the Gazan invasion, or protesting the ban on protesting the Gazan invasion?
I am not entirely sure, but i guess they were protesting about both..
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