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Author Topic: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!  (Read 364162 times)

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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #4500 on: September 03, 2013, 03:36:26 pm »

Argh, see, this is what I'm talking about. If we really cared about people and doing the right thing, those refugees are the people we'd want to help. But we won't. We just won't. It's so infuriating.
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« Reply #4501 on: September 03, 2013, 05:19:15 pm »

Wow, Lebanon has received 700k syrian refugees?! if the crisis doesn't end soon, another one will shortly follow in lebanon. there is no way such a devastated country could ever support that many people all of a sudden and judging by how they treat the palestines that reside there, i am sure they will grant no better treatment to the syrians.  lebanon is already in a constant threat of getting in a second civil war as it is.

Edit: scratch that, i think its inevitable that the crisis will fully leak to lebanon.
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« Reply #4502 on: September 03, 2013, 05:42:23 pm »

Lebanon will probably not treat the Syrians like they do the Palestinians, given Hezbollah's pro-Syrian bent.
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« Reply #4503 on: September 03, 2013, 07:27:22 pm »

Lebanon is anti palestine?
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« Reply #4504 on: September 03, 2013, 07:35:57 pm »

Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt all try their damnedest to keep the Palestinians from leaving Gaza and West Bank through them, in order to keep the situation as volatile as possible for Israel.
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« Reply #4505 on: September 03, 2013, 08:06:26 pm »

Isn't Lebanon like, Syria lite? Used to be part of Syria but was partitioned and the partition stuck?
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« Reply #4506 on: September 04, 2013, 07:08:11 am »

Putin officially promised to back up military action against Assad if Russia gets to see convincing evidence that the chemical weapons were used by Assad side. To paraphrase - "we assure you that we have evidence but it is classified, so we can't show you" by US will not cut it.

That was not surprising to me but similarity to the position of a major UK party was.
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« Reply #4507 on: September 04, 2013, 12:04:56 pm »

Putin officially promised to back up military action against Assad if Russia gets to see convincing evidence that the chemical weapons were used by Assad side. To paraphrase - "we assure you that we have evidence but it is classified, so we can't show you" by US will not cut it.

That was not surprising to me but similarity to the position of a major UK party was.
This seems really easy to play "Move the goal-posts" with. Define convincing.


Meanwhile, Bill o'Reilly has endorsed Obama's plan, and fire and brimstone is raining from the heavens.
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« Reply #4508 on: September 04, 2013, 02:07:33 pm »

Putin officially promised to back up military action against Assad if Russia gets to see convincing evidence that the chemical weapons were used by Assad side. To paraphrase - "we assure you that we have evidence but it is classified, so we can't show you" by US will not cut it.

That was not surprising to me but similarity to the position of a major UK party was.
This seems really easy to play "Move the goal-posts" with. Define convincing.


Meanwhile, Bill o'Reilly has endorsed Obama's plan, and fire and brimstone is raining from the heavens.
I am sure that it is about the same "convincing" as what the British parliamentarians mean. Not zero public evidence and "act quickly before the official UN commission publish their conclusions" as currently.
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« Reply #4509 on: September 04, 2013, 02:22:19 pm »

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The arguments will be convincing when it's in the Russian national interest to intervene in Syria.
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« Reply #4510 on: September 04, 2013, 02:27:10 pm »

Maybe we should start funding Islamists and relocating them a few hundred kilometers north from their current locations. That might actually touch Russian interests for once :D
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« Reply #4511 on: September 04, 2013, 02:32:51 pm »

I have met a considerable number of Russians who believe the West did (and may still do) exactly that.
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« Reply #4512 on: September 04, 2013, 02:34:22 pm »

Russians are willing to blame the West for just about anything that happens to Russia. I still hear of people claiming that Mikhail Gorbachev was a CIA agent.
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« Reply #4513 on: September 04, 2013, 02:37:27 pm »

Russians are willing to blame the West for just about anything that happens to Russia. I still hear of people claiming that Mikhail Gorbachev was a CIA agent.

I myself have been accused of hiding terrorists and planning on destroying Russia.
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« Reply #4514 on: September 04, 2013, 07:24:45 pm »

Who would have suspected it was the nocturnal pastry all along?
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