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Author Topic: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!  (Read 376181 times)

Zangi

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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #4200 on: July 01, 2013, 02:06:54 pm »

No elections.  My people love me. There is no need to waste time with elections when everyone already fully supports me. No elections!
El Presidente, their are grumblings within the military, something must be done to appease them!
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #4201 on: July 01, 2013, 02:08:45 pm »

No elections.  My people love me. There is no need to waste time with elections when everyone already fully supports me. No elections!
El Presidente, their are grumblings within the military, something must be done to appease them!
Oh, just hang a few dissenters, that will make them calm down.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #4202 on: July 01, 2013, 06:44:36 pm »

No elections.  My people love me. There is no need to waste time with elections when everyone already fully supports me. No elections!
El Presidente, their are grumblings within the military, something must be done to appease them!
Oh, just hang a few dissenters, that will make them calm down.
Or at the very least a few liberals.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #4203 on: July 03, 2013, 01:07:17 am »

So we're back where we started. The Egyptian army is gearing up for a de facto coup, set to happen later today.

Let's hope for the best, I suppose.

And just for your information, they don't appear to be planning to intervene in favor of the government. Morel likely that they'll intervene in favor of themselves.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #4204 on: July 03, 2013, 03:01:28 am »

So we're back where we started. The Egyptian army is gearing up for a de facto coup, set to happen later today.

Let's hope for the best, I suppose.

And just for your information, they don't appear to be planning to intervene in favor of the government. Morel likely that they'll intervene in favor of themselves.

Why do you say that last bit? One would presume they'd be doing that naturally by participating in a coup regardless of who rules it, but you appear to be giving additional emphasis. I doubt they're that stupid.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #4205 on: July 03, 2013, 06:35:23 am »

Well given the defence minister said the army was going to intervene on the side of the government, I don't think so.
To indicate that the quote here is outdated.
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Zangi

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« Reply #4206 on: July 03, 2013, 07:11:22 am »

So we're back where we started. The Egyptian army is gearing up for a de facto coup, set to happen later today.

Let's hope for the best, I suppose.

And just for your information, they don't appear to be planning to intervene in favor of the government. Morel likely that they'll intervene in favor of themselves.

Why do you say that last bit? One would presume they'd be doing that naturally by participating in a coup regardless of who rules it, but you appear to be giving additional emphasis. I doubt they're that stupid.
Everything they have done so far is in favor of themselves, but they do follow at least two internal doctrines; 'national security is the be-all-end-all goal/purpose' and 'stay away from the kiddie poolpolitics unless absolutely necessary'.

Sure you may not like that the military is acting for its own benefit... but they have so far passed that benefit down in the lack of a long bloody civil war/genocide like what has happened in Libya or Syria. 
What more do you want from them?  When they believe that the civilian government is doing a piss poor job with both the economy and public support, they'll want to step in, cause fucking that up erodes their ability to complete their goal/purpose.

Also, I'm pretty sure they are not on the side of the civilian government.  Technically though, they are government themselves...
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #4207 on: July 03, 2013, 11:48:04 am »

Coup is underway. Not sure if this should go here, or in the Arab Spring topic.. Or the Politics topic.. Either way, Morsi looks to be on the way out as I type this. Tanks moving into central Cairo, reports of Muslim Brotherhood leadership being arrested.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #4208 on: July 03, 2013, 11:52:17 am »

isn't this the arab spring topic?

Zangi

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« Reply #4209 on: July 03, 2013, 11:54:07 am »

Well, it is the Egypt and stuff topic.  We will see how the military ends up handling things and how the populous will see things I suppose...
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« Reply #4210 on: July 03, 2013, 12:27:03 pm »

Well given the defence minister said the army was going to intervene on the side of the government, I don't think so.
To indicate that the quote here is outdated.
Hey, it was an accurate statement when I said it. The times move fast.
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« Reply #4211 on: July 03, 2013, 12:42:40 pm »

Hence why I said outdated, and not wrong.
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« Reply #4212 on: July 03, 2013, 01:49:51 pm »

So... Egypt's adopting the Turkish model. Seems fine enough, at least some sembiance of democracy until they're "ready" to not vote in reactionaries or however you'd like to name the entire bullshit scheme.
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« Reply #4213 on: July 03, 2013, 02:05:09 pm »

Let's hope Egyptians vote for someone a bit more liberal this time.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #4214 on: July 03, 2013, 02:13:53 pm »

I'd settle for anyone willing to not plan to eliminate ethnic and religious minorities or start a war with Israel.
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