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Author Topic: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.  (Read 12816 times)

DJ

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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #105 on: January 31, 2011, 05:49:48 pm »

Scurvy takes mere weeks to get you, otherwise it wouldn't have been a problem on ships.

Anyway, my point is that "wild" humans couldn't have survived without meat, so you can't really say we're naturally vegans.
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« Reply #106 on: January 31, 2011, 06:42:38 pm »

Vitamin C is still found in fresh meat, since most animals synthesize it or consume enough of it to not suffer from scurvy themselves.

So uh... we can't consider a post-farming diet, but we can consider a much more recent study on "two Swedish guys"?
These things have nothing to do with another. The study only shows that it's possible for humans to live on nothing but meat, contradicting your assertion that "people are barely able to eat meat" or what have you.


Yes, humans "can" survive without it, so long as they have access to the right foods, and know what to eat. No, there's absolutely fuck all reason to want to do so unless you're somehow allergic to it or something like that.
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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #107 on: January 31, 2011, 06:47:02 pm »

I never made anything like that assertion.  It was "Humans aren't hugely adapted towards eating meat".  As in, you don't necessarily need to eat meat.

No, there's absolutely fuck all reason to want to do so unless you're somehow allergic to it or something like that.
Barring moral, cost, health or religious grounds, I guess.
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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #108 on: January 31, 2011, 06:50:36 pm »

WOah, where did this go? Are you guys just too busy missing each others points or something? Because that's what almost the entire last page consisted of.
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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #109 on: February 01, 2011, 01:47:18 am »

Missing eachothers points is all anyone is good at. If we were good at it we would have hover cars by now.
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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #110 on: February 01, 2011, 01:57:42 am »

This is a fascinating conversation, and I am watching this.

also, I've never eaten meat in my life.
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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #111 on: February 01, 2011, 04:14:15 am »

Protein is what made us sentient creatures. To deny it is to say that you would prefer us to be apes.
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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #112 on: February 01, 2011, 04:16:26 am »

rice and beans give me all the protein I need.
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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #113 on: February 01, 2011, 04:32:06 am »

This is a fascinating conversation, and I am watching this.

also, I've never eaten meat in my life.
Never in your life? Can I assume this is something you got from your parents?

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« Reply #114 on: February 01, 2011, 04:39:38 am »

yes.

though now I live in a country where at least half the population follows the same diet, so it's all good.
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« Reply #115 on: February 01, 2011, 04:41:21 am »

 :) I like that. Were I to take a stab, I would say national health is less of a major issue over there.

EDIT: Wait, when I say issue, I mean problem. I'm sure you take health very seriously.

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« Reply #116 on: February 01, 2011, 04:43:08 am »

nah, it's not really an issue, at least in the sense that it's not something everybody's worried about.
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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #117 on: February 01, 2011, 04:46:41 am »

Let's see how Australia is doing for national obesity...

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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #118 on: February 01, 2011, 04:48:03 am »

India has big issues and obesity is definitely not one of them.
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Re: The Vegetarianism/Veganism Debate.
« Reply #119 on: February 01, 2011, 05:56:39 am »

While I congratulate you guys for not devolving into name calling yet, I'd still like it if everyone put their seat in the "chill" position.

While I respect people who take up the veggie/vegan lifestyle, I personally will continue to eat meat. Partly because it's that fatty meat that allowed humans to evolve into the intelligent creature we are today, and mainly because I like my taste buds.
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