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Author Topic: F--king ammunition! How Does It Work?  (Read 1811 times)

Flinthart

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F--king ammunition! How Does It Work?
« on: January 27, 2011, 06:50:37 am »

No. Really.

I finally worked out how to assign ammunition to various groups. (I think.) But then there's that long ammo-list down the right hand side of the screen, and I don't know what the fork it's supposed to be telling me.

Most of all, I don't know how to set ammo for Combat and Training. If the red C is next to the assigned ammo, does that mean I've successfully designated it for combat purposes? And the green T - that means I've designated it for training?

Or is it the other way around? Is it that assigned ammunition will automatically be used for combat AND training, and I have to place the red C next to the assigned ammo to PREVENT it being used in combat, and the green T to PREVENT it being used for training?

I've skimmed twenty-five pages of these forums and haven't seen a topic on this yet. Mind you, with near a thousand pages I could be at it for a long time. So I figured -- fork it, I'll just create a new topic and ask.

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shlorf

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Re: F--king ammunition! How Does It Work?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 07:05:44 am »

Assigning different ammmo types for training and combat is currently bugged. If you want to have a squad training with wooden or bone bolts make only wood/bone bolt item for them and have your legendary dwarfs in another squad and assign them metal bolts. For the record if the letter C and T show next to an item that item is allowed for combat/training use respectively. As it is currently bugged dwarfs will not respect if you add metal bolts with c turned on and wood bolts with t and instead use both for both.
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Flinthart

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Re: F--king ammunition! How Does It Work?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 07:09:43 am »

Huh.

So once the 'bug' is gone, not only will you have to ASSIGN ammunition, but it still won't do shit until you allocate either C for combat or T for training.

Yeah, okay. That's par for the course. Meanwhile, the dorfs just blaze away with whatever they happen to be assigned. Okay, fair enough.

Thanks, schlorf.
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shlorf

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Re: F--king ammunition! How Does It Work?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 07:51:04 am »

Since both C and T are enabled for the default items and newly created items by default, that wouldn't happen. But unless you specifically assign bolts with a material you might waste metal bolts for hunting or on archery targets.
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Re: F--king ammunition! How Does It Work?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2011, 02:20:49 am »

The main cause of the bug, can be summed up like this. You just drafted your marksdwarf. Supplied him/her with 100 bolts for training, marked T, since your fort cannot waste metal bolts. When Usrist decides its time to target practice, will go gather a stack from a stockpile, put them in his quiver, then go and fire them off. Does not go refill his quiver.
 If you set the bolts for C and T the next time he wants to shoot, will go get some more, and fire them at the target. The difference is, if they are marked C, will restock his quiver, after target practice, with bolts you designated for combat, then go about his business.
 The C command is like issuing live rounds to store, and use in case of problems.
  But then poor, easily confused Urist decides to go target practice, and decides to save a trip to the ammo supply, since he has some already in his quiver. Fires off the bolts in his quiver, then restocks the quiver, since his quiver needs to always be filled with combat bolts "C". If you do not pay attention, they will decimate the supply of war bolts you made.

 Best thing to, under normal conditions, assign an allotment of wooden bolts, or bone, C T. If you have an emergency(siege, ambushers, a racoon loose in the fort) remove the allotment of practice bolts from the ammo screen, make a new allotment of metal bolts, assign T. They will go refill their quivers with these, and fire at the problems. When the emergency is over, remove the metal bolts from the ammo screen, then replace with an allotment of training bolts. If you don't, the idiots will again start trying to use up all your metal bolts at target practice. Its a pain, but in emergencys, you will be issuing commands, and alerts anyways.
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