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[Girlinhat]

This is a yearly shower, I'm making an alert state that orders everyone into the shower for about 2 minutes while they get deloused.

[brucemo]

A ditch across a corridor, filled with 2/7 or 3/7 water, works perfectly as a bath and can be built in a few seconds.  More complicated methods are fine but all you need is a ditch, and you can set that up in your initial dig-out, and fill it when you get your first bucket, rather than planning and/or putting it off for years, or *having* to leave something on that doesn't work as well for this task and might actually hurt your FPS.

Try to do your fighting inside, so stuff will be cleaned.  Combine this with the ditch and blood is not a big problem.  The dwarves will even clean the ditch.

[Sutremaine]

Plus, set it between two meeting areas and dwarves and pets will wander back and forth when idle. Stray animals will wander back and forth all the time. Find a way to put a bath in the path to the booze, dining room, or bedroom complex, and that takes care of working dwarves as well.

[Girlinhat]

Ok, well I also want to make the shower.  It's a definitive and interesting way to mass-wash those stinking dwarves.I certainly could build a trench somewhere, and it might work just as well, but I personally want to build a delousing chamber as part of my internal plumbing.  Perhaps a few at different areas as a sort of "emergency chemical shower" setup.  This is all more for flare than actual ability.

[rephikul]

if you have weather on and dont mind letting dwarves going outside, you dont need any dwarf wash, rain would clean all dwarves & pets and leave contaminants on the floor which you can then us dfclean to get rid of.

[brucemo]

Yes, and if you are willing to channel out 3 tiles, make a pond zone over them, and delete the pond zone at 2/7 or 3/7 in all three tiles, the cleaning is done permanently without dfhack.

[Rask]

Would it help with FPS to have all rooms along the same, non-branching main hallway?

Also, what I do is embark on a 2x2 area and set z-levels before first caverns to 50 so that I have plenty of room for the fort despite the small surface area. Drawbacks are:

• less trees, due to less surface area
• enemies are at your entrance very fast, since distance to the map edge is short
• small chance of not having access to the best metal. However, this can be perfectly avoided by putting the embark square into a corner of the map and then moving it only in two-step increments.
  

As for the main advantage: currently 80 dorfs at 160 FPS. I haven't been able to check with more, though, so I don't know how fast it will be at 200 dorfs.

[Dorten]

World size affects Fortress FPS very much surprisingly.

[zephyr_hound]

Items can make a huge difference. I was cleaning up in a megaproject fort to prepare for adventurer mode and I decided to get rid of everything I could so I didn't have to pick over a surface strewn with zinc bars and ore and horse bones and what not. I smelted an entire z-level's worth of galena and sphalerite ore, then built an entire two storey meeting hall/dining room out of the lead and zinc bars. Every other metal bar got encrusted onto something. All the gems got encrusted onto furniture which was then built. The stones got built into other stuff. Goblin gear got melted down and reused. Excess armor and weapons got melted and reused. And the stuff I couldn't find anything to do with got magmadumped. I saw my FPS go up from 7-10 to the 30s by the end, when about the only loose stuff I had remaining was food and booze and the stuff I'd picked out for my adventurer to grab. Course you can't go that minimalist in a working fort, but it doesn't hurt to throw useless or semi-useful stuff out. I'm definintely going to make an effort to run tidier forts after seeing that effect.

[Rask]

World size affects Fortress FPS very much surprisingly.

Whoa. 

I did the experiment. Max FPS set to 20,000 so I couldn't possibly hit the cap, and then created a medium and a pocket world.

Both embarks on 2x2 area, flat tundra, Play Now, done nothing but unpausing the game at start:

Medium world: 295 FPS
Pocket world:  450 FPS

Time to rebuild my fortress on a new world, I guess. Should this be considered a bug and reported to the bug tracker?

[xmakina]

World size affects Fortress FPS very much surprisingly.

Whoa. 

I did the experiment. Max FPS set to 20,000 so I couldn't possibly hit the cap, and then created a medium and a pocket world.

Both embarks on 2x2 area, flat tundra, Play Now, done nothing but unpausing the game at start:

Medium world: 295 FPS
Pocket world:  450 FPS

Time to rebuild my fortress on a new world, I guess.

Switch of invasions on the medium world. I read that that can be a huge contributor to FPS as the game has to analyse the whole world to see if anyone is invading you.

[Rask]

Switch of invasions on the medium world. I read that that can be a huge contributor to FPS as the game has to analyse the whole world to see if anyone is invading you.

No, that's silly. I'm playing FOR the invasions.

[rephikul]

World size affects Fortress FPS very much surprisingly.

please elaborate, I dont see any influence.

[Rask]

please elaborate, I dont see any influence.

See my test above:

2x2 embark on medium world: 295 FPS
2x2 embark on pocket world: 450 FPS
Added: 2x2 embark on pocket world generated with civilisations set to 120 and six invader races modded in, just to see if more invaders in the medium region were the cause for it being slower: still 450+ FPS

Edit: that's 50% more FPS just from world size 

[rephikul]

please elaborate, I dont see any influence.

See my test above:

2x2 embark on medium world: 295 FPS
2x2 embark on pocket world: 450 FPS
Added: 2x2 embark on pocket world generated with civilisations set to 120 and six invader races modded in, just to see if more invaders in the medium region were the cause for it being slower: still 450+ FPS

Edit: that's 50% more FPS just from world size 

You have problems with ram or it is a glitchy embark maybe? Below is my testing:
2x2 embark on small world: 1200+ FPS
2x2 embark on large world: 1200+ FPS
2x2 embark on a particularly wierd large world: 300+ FPS