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Author Topic: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights  (Read 18338 times)

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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2011, 09:41:38 am »

Hopefully toady will have a new release before it all goes down.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2011, 09:57:35 am »

This is why I have a hard time believing the sky is going to fall, in the next few days or ever.
And, as someone who actually knows what they're talking about on the subject, I can tell you that things are not going to collapse in on themselves.

What the OP claims is that the IPv4 system which, 90% or so of the internet uses right now, is going to become full.
Think of it like a multi-story car park. Each parking bay is an IP address. Basically, service providers litterally buy segments of this car park, then, when you connect to the internet, your "car" goes into one of these spaces. That's an IP address in use.
Once a provider has baught a segment of the car park though, no one else can then use those spaces.

What happens when the car park is full?
Well, it certainly doesn't collapse.
Basically new cars cannot park because there is no space.
Most of the time, you'll find that there's plenty of free space in your providers allocated bays, and that you'll have no problem getting online.

And, just to fit to this analogy, I have what's called a static IP address, which you tend to have to pay a bit more for, because it can't then be pooled like a normal address.
Think of it as a reserved space, just for me. (Unless I stop paying my ISP!)
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2011, 10:15:56 am »

So, if I'm getting this right, running out of IPv4 addresses will not become a problem for anyone untill there are enough people using the internet at the exact same time to fill every single address in a given ISP's owned addresses?
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2011, 10:51:36 am »

Speaking of IP distribution, does anyone know how IPv6 addresses will be given out?
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2011, 10:53:00 am »

It's not qute that simple.
This is, unfortunately true.

Just to try and clarify my whole multi-story carpark analogy, IP addresses are reserved per ISP or higher company... So one ISP could be at full load, and another empty, just because those IPs are open, doesn't mean you can use them, unfortuntely.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2011, 04:27:33 pm »

XP Service Pack 1, Vista, and Windows 7 all have Teredo installed already; all you have to do is activate it and you can browse IPv6 sites even with IPv4. Click on that link to learn how to activate it; note however, that it's seem incredibly complicated. Get Gogonet instead.

Not to mention it explicitly says that if you have a home router, like 99% of ordinary Internet customers, you're boned anyway.

Questionable accuracy, because according to it, I shouldn't have been able to get to google by ipv6, and yet I could when I tested it a few minutes ago...
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2011, 04:36:52 pm »

Is this something that can be solved through a firmware update?
Because every time I go to 192.168.1.1, it scans for an update.

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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2011, 06:14:28 pm »

Speaking of IP distribution, does anyone know how IPv6 addresses will be given out?
Easily. Same organisation, but they give them by the dozen( just like when iv4 began).
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2011, 03:57:39 pm »

Estimates between 6 and 8 days today. Better play as much Fallout as you can, to get a good idea of how to survive in the post-IPv4 wasteland that is fast approaching!
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2011, 03:59:40 pm »

oh god i can see the light..
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2011, 05:52:08 pm »

Estimates between 6 and 8 days today.

You keep saying that like it means something.  Where are you getting these estimates?  Explain yourself.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2011, 05:54:58 pm »

Estimates between 6 and 8 days today.

You keep saying that like it means something.  Where are you getting these estimates?  Explain yourself.
Indeed.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2011, 05:59:25 pm »

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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2011, 06:14:32 pm »

First you take lamb bones and char them over a fire of the sacred reeds. While the air is still laden with the smoke, you must scan the top three results for a google search of some variation of the phrase "IPv4 exaustion prediction".

I'll admit it leaves some room for increased accuracy.

I used to get my results from here, but the app is broken.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2011, 06:18:22 pm »

it doesn't look broken.
what do you mean?
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