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Author Topic: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights  (Read 18354 times)

SalmonGod

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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2011, 08:44:03 pm »

This sounds way too much like the Y2K bug hype
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2011, 08:46:35 pm »

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Are you using manual IP assignment or something?
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2011, 08:54:35 pm »

So, now that we're all prepared to freak out at the words "Connection Error" for the next few weeks, has anyone seen if there are people predicting this will be the end of the world? There generally are for every event ever, but I haven't seen any for this. Yet.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2011, 09:07:49 pm »

So, now that we're all prepared to freak out at the words "Connection Error" for the next few weeks, has anyone seen if there are people predicting this will be the end of the world? There generally are for every event ever, but I haven't seen any for this. Yet.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2011, 09:19:53 pm »

Well, the estimates are still unclear, but it appears that within the next 14-2 days, the internet as we know it will melt, implode, collapse, shoot out sparks, and bleed to death, possibly fatally.

Internet protocall version 4, the scheme that gives us the traditional xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx addresses, is set to be entirely used up in a handfull of days. At that point, all the addressses will have been assigned and no new internet-enabled devices will be possible.

Of course, IPv6 has been around for several years, but absolutely noone has done anything about it. It is only now that there is no time to make any change at all that any ISPs are taking this seriously.

Not that I don't believe you on the scale of the problem... well, okay I don't, but I don't believe you because I'd like to have some documentation.

All the same, any tips for a Windows XP user?  That ipv6.google.com thing does absolutely nothing for me.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2011, 09:31:38 pm »

That ipv6.google.com thing does absolutely nothing for me.

That's the point. That site is only available on IPV6, and if your computer/ISP does not support IPv6, that site will not be available to you.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2011, 09:32:04 pm »

XP Service Pack 1, Vista, and Windows 7 all have Teredo installed already; all you have to do is activate it and you can browse IPv6 sites even with IPv4. Click on that link to learn how to activate it; note however, that it's seem incredibly complicated. Get Gogonet instead.

EDIT: And it turns out Gogonet requires me to register to their silly social networking site. Forget Gogonet. Go Teredo!
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2011, 09:36:41 pm »

Let me try that Teredo thing out.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2011, 09:47:03 pm »

XP Service Pack 1, Vista, and Windows 7 all have Teredo installed already; all you have to do is activate it and you can browse IPv6 sites even with IPv4. Click on that link to learn how to activate it; note however, that it's seem incredibly complicated. Get Gogonet instead.

Not to mention it explicitly says that if you have a home router, like 99% of ordinary Internet customers, you're boned anyway.

This is why I have a hard time believing the sky is going to fall, in the next few days or ever.  Why in the world would ISPs as an industry sit around with their thumbs in the asses, instead of developing some workaround on their end?  If the problem really is as catastrophic as described, in that big chunks of sites and addresses will be randomly unable to connect, it'll mean irate service calls out the wazoo, firmware replacement by the millions, dropped customers galore especially migrating to the first company to deliver a back-compat solution, and God knows what kind of angry advertisers.  Just think of the money they'd stand to lose, it's retarded.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2011, 10:08:33 pm »

OH NOES! FEB 5th is a VARY important date for me! I can't have the internet quit on me then!
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2011, 10:22:24 pm »

Unfortunately for me, apparently my ISP doesn't give IPv6. Oh well, they'll give IPv6 eventually.
Turns out, it was actually due to me turning off IPv6 in firefox(me trying to connect to the LParchive which just wouldn't connect, but it connects now strangely). *Facepalm*, so I actually can connect to the IPv6 network, even though it uses Teredo. Yay! I get 7/10 for both tests!

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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2011, 10:24:09 pm »

Wait, the world's ending? I missed the memo!



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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2011, 06:33:11 am »

I don't know how serious it is, but bear in mind that many Firewall systems cannot deal properly with IPV6 traffic, there are a number of exploits that work on IPV6, especially some new stuff for Metasploit and the like, these use the toredo system to give your box an IPV6 ip and then maintain a persistent shell via new methods of attack.

http://www.hak5.org/episodes/episode-810


Note that they have to gain access to the actual system first, so as long as you are careful then it's not so bad.
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Re: IPv4 is over, turn off the lights
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2011, 08:34:13 am »

Hehe, now now, it doesn't work like that, poeple.

The IP is a number that a machine is given by a router to get accesible on a routed network (you can do a network without it with only switches). All the routers any packet goes through must be configured this way for the thing to work.
That's why we have been speaking of NAT : the process of giving an IPv4 address to an IPv6 packet to allow him to pass on a non IPv6 segment of the network. Changing your IP version at home will achieve nothing. (Beside you must be given an IP address.)
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