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[Neowulf]

How about a simple toggle setting on all workshops to determine whether auto-jobs and manager queue jobs spawn in a workshop.

I don't want my normal glass furnaces clogged with jobs from my 1000 glass block greenhouse project the magma smelters should be getting, normals are for sand collecting. I don't want coke wasted on glass blocks, coke is for precious iron.
And you could leave render fat autojobs on for your sporadic butchering output while still allowing your legendary chef to make lavish meals uninterrupted (rendering fat is a sous chefs job).
Or even just leave one mason/carpentry shop clear of jobs for real work, while your others work on mass production jobs.

[IT 000]

Being in this situation before, I agree with you completely.

[Norseman]

I think it would be better if, in addition or instead, you could turn some jobs off. You just go to your normal glass furnace and tell it to not accept any tasks except sand gathering, and you could go to your magma furnace and tell it to not accept sand gathering tasks. Then, you could issue both orders in the job manager and they'd be divided among the available workshops appropriately, and in whatever way you like.

[iron_general]

I like the idea. There is workoround however, just suspend the auto job at workshops at which you don't want said task performed. Though it adresses only half the issue.

[martinuzz]

I fully endorse this suggestion.

+1

Norseman's variant would probably be the most elegant, and give maximum control.

[Mephansteras]

I fully endorse this suggestion.

+1

Norseman's variant would probably be the most elegant, and give maximum control.

I approve of the general concept.

Only problem I can see with Norseman's variant is that some workshops have a stupid variety of stuff they can do. Like crafts or forges. I think you'd want to be able to turn on/off entire categories as well as individual jobs for those. That would be pretty awesome, really. Assign a forge to your legendary Weaponsmith and allow that forge to only accept weapon tasks.

[Silverionmox]

I fully endorse this suggestion.

+1

Norseman's variant would probably be the most elegant, and give maximum control.

I approve of the general concept.

Only problem I can see with Norseman's variant is that some workshops have a stupid variety of stuff they can do. Like crafts or forges. I think you'd want to be able to turn on/off entire categories as well as individual jobs for those. That would be pretty awesome, really. Assign a forge to your legendary Weaponsmith and allow that forge to only accept weapon tasks.

A simple option in the job list of a workshop to "turn off everything else" when selecting a specific job would suffice.

[Uristocrat]

For mass production jobs like masonry, why not just use a bunch of tasks set to repeat?  If you have more than one task set to repeat, they'll cycle through all of them and it's not like you're going to run out of stone any time soon.  I generally end up with doors and stone blocks on repeat for most of my fortress's life.

That won't fix the problem you have with render fat, but it will fix the rest, mostly.  For example, queue up 10x"collect sand" on repeat for your normal glass furnaces and the manager won't be able to assign anything to that workshop.  And if you're trying to do thousands of glass blocks 30 at a time in the manager, I think it would be *much* easier to set the magma glass furnace to make them on repeat....

[Mephansteras]

The one area that I *really* want this ability on is the Forge. I frequently have forges set to only allow a legendary (often a specific one) to work there, so I can make sure that my lower level guys aren't using up my valuable metals. I often stick stockpiles of the best metals right near these forges, as well.

I don't want orders for golden goblets to get sent to my weaponsmith's forge, I don't want orders for the 3 platinum thrones to go to my novice smiths, and I don't want to have to micromanage every single forge in my fortress. It's annoying and I'd much rather have the job manager be able to send the jobs to the correct forges.

[Grimlocke]

Agreed, with this I might actualy use the manager screen rather than just single or repeat orders. Just being able to restrict certain labours to certain workshops would solve a lot of problems.

[Davichococat]

I fully endorse this suggestion.

+1

Norseman's variant would probably be the most elegant, and give maximum control.

[Uristocrat]

I think it would be better if, in addition or instead, you could turn some jobs off. You just go to your normal glass furnace and tell it to not accept any tasks except sand gathering, and you could go to your magma furnace and tell it to not accept sand gathering tasks. Then, you could issue both orders in the job manager and they'd be divided among the available workshops appropriately, and in whatever way you like.

I think that would be very nice.  And give more use for the manager noble.

[Starver]

How about, whatever the menu structure for a given workshop (all displayed at level 1, or have to dig down, like Stone Crafts/Mugs/Instruments found beneath the initial heading of Stone things in a Craftsdwarf's Shop), as well as the option to add that job type to the queue, the ability to toggle off/on that particular job-type from creation by the aforementioned auto-job or manager screens.

I was going to suggest either some additional top-level menu item to list the currently toggled-offs, or appearing (scrollable) at the bottom of the maximum 10 items in the job menu (for selection so once can 'cancel the no-auto'), but you could leave it as a side character (or colour) in the existing menu systems indicating the auto-possibility state.  It'd still be more convenient than it currently is, and not much worse than the whole Permitting of certain dwarfs/skill levels to use that workshop, something which you'd think should be closely related to the allowed jobs.


I do see some minor difficulty adding this functionality to the Jeweller's, though, with its slightly unique (if you'll excuse the split infinitive) job assignment menu.  But as I rarely manager-queue gem-cutting/setting jobs I'd be content to let that one go.  (Unless Ctrl-C and Ctrl-E toggles the Cut/Encrust auto-capability for each, where plain C and E actually adds said job.  (If it is C and E, I forget, without loading up DF... and for that forgetfulness/unsureness I am truly ashamed...)

[Jake]

I think it would be better if, in addition or instead, you could turn some jobs off. You just go to your normal glass furnace and tell it to not accept any tasks except sand gathering, and you could go to your magma furnace and tell it to not accept sand gathering tasks. Then, you could issue both orders in the job manager and they'd be divided among the available workshops appropriately, and in whatever way you like.

That seems like the best suggestion so far. Though sand-gathering could use a fairly major overhaul anyway, starting with the fact that it requires a workshop.

[shadowform]

I think it would be better if, in addition or instead, you could turn some jobs off. You just go to your normal glass furnace and tell it to not accept any tasks except sand gathering, and you could go to your magma furnace and tell it to not accept sand gathering tasks. Then, you could issue both orders in the job manager and they'd be divided among the available workshops appropriately, and in whatever way you like.

Issue it the one job you want set to repeat, and 9 others set to suspended.  The ones on suspense will prevent additional jobs from being added and the one set to repeat will continue to run as long as it can.