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[glawen]

Can kobold thieves (or others) come from the underground caverns ?

[dakenho]

dont think so, never seen it happen

can you expand your scenario to explain what exactly happened that would make you think they would?

[Sphalerite]

No.  The only races that can come from the underground map edges are those which naturally live underground, and AFAIK none of the underground races in vanilla DF send thieves.

[glawen]

Thanks for the answer, it never happened, i was just asking because i'm beginning my first cave exploration and i wanted to know what protection i should design. So normal traps will be enough, no need for dogs.

[sir_laser]

Well...depending on your world gen parameters, even the first level cavern can contain Forgotten Beasts, trolls, Giant Cave Spiders, and many other sources of disaster fun. I walled off a magma tube completely in my current embark, then a couple days later two FBs showed up.

And you knew that FBs are [TRAPAVOID], right?

[Aoi]

On a side note, do thieves and creatures with [TRAPAVOID] not set off traps, or are they immune to them as well? Specifically, I'm thinking of lacing my entrances with rows of spear traps and one guy just constantly pulling the lever. Probably the same one that controls the danger room. =P

[Sphalerite]

Upright spike/spear traps will harm any creature, even those with [TRAPAVOID].  They'll also harm your own dwarves.

[BaronBalloon]

trapavoid is not immunity. for instance, if a trapavoid creature is unconscious on a trap, the trap will take effect. one way to knock creatures unconscious is with a cave-in. you can use this to your advantage if you ever want a clown in a cage. hilarity ensues.

[Daveorock]

Just a tip to avoid stuff like underground beats, to explore caverns without creating a space for enemies to get into your fort, just dig to the side of a wall, smooth a block of it, then turn it into a fortification, it reveals more cavern and theres no way for enemies to get through it.

[sir_laser]

Just a tip to avoid stuff like underground beats, to explore caverns without creating a space for enemies to get into your fort, just dig to the side of a wall, smooth a block of it, then turn it into a fortification, it reveals more cavern and theres no way for enemies to get through it.

Or dig until you get an announcement, then wall that section off with constructed walls. Fortifications are less work but require that you know exactly where the cavern begins. They're better with adamantine spires for finding the hollow center, in my humble opinion.

[Quietust]

you can use this to your advantage if you ever want a clown in a cage. hilarity ensues.

I think you'll find that those sorts of creatures cannot be knocked unconscious by any means (due to the [NOSTUN] token) - the only current means of caging them is a giant cave spider silk web sitting on top of the trap, but even that might be fixed in a future release.

[capt.pantsless]

Can kobold thieves (or others) come from the underground caverns ?

Not Kobolds, but Gremlins can - they also can unlock doors and whatnot, much like thieves.

[JacaByte]

Do creatures with [TRAPAVOID] trigger pressure plates?

[Quietust]

They do not.

You should also know that thieves are not the only things that steal items - some curious beasts will steal items left lying around, and drunians are one such creature that can be found in the caverns.