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GreatWyrmGold

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Holy...
« on: January 16, 2011, 11:57:19 am »

In the Arena, I pitted three dwarves with Novice hammer- and axe- dwarf and an adamantine warhammer apiece against an identical dwarf with a silver warhammer instead.
Guess who won?
The dwarves with feather-light blue hammers.
They then went on to beat another one, although the second might not count since he fell into some magma...although the adamantine soldiers got in some good licks first. It took a third, with two of the adamantines jumping into lava, to finish off the featherweight trio.
EDIT: The adamantine hammerers managed to get yellow and blue wounds to most of the silver hammerer's body. EDITEDIT: The silver then suffocated.

What? I thought adamantine was so light as to make it harmless?

Sorry that I can't get any screenshots, but can someone who has actually mastered the art of screenshots please confirm?
« Last Edit: January 16, 2011, 12:03:32 pm by GreatWyrmGold »
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Re: Holy...
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2011, 12:02:41 pm »

Adamantine sucks as bludgeoning weapons, whereas slashing or hacking weapons... eh, I've no experience with the stuff, but either they also had different armor or they were lucky.

Or it's the fact that it was 2 on 1.
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Re: Holy...
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2011, 12:04:56 pm »

Adamantine sucks as bludgeoning weapons, whereas slashing or hacking weapons... eh, I've no experience with the stuff, but either they also had different armor or they were lucky.

Or it's the fact that it was 2 on 1.

As to the first, did you notice that the three had the adamantine?
As to the second, if adamantine hammers are as worthless as I've heard, then it wouldn't matter much.
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Re: Holy...
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 12:05:54 pm »

They are still light, which means that they don't do much damage per hit, but I think it also means that they can be swung extremely fast.  Check if I'm right - in the combat logs, I'll bet that for every 1 or two hits the silver hammerdwarf got, the adamantite dwarves got about 10 in.  Try it again with legendary hammerdwarves, and possibly some armor.  Since they are legendary, the weight of the hammer should be of little consequence to how fast they can swing it.
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Re: Holy...
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2011, 12:09:45 pm »

I think it's more a result of aimed attacks and using secondary attacks when available and useful. Check the combat logs - the adamantine hammerers probably never even used them.
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Re: Holy...
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2011, 12:14:38 pm »

Adamantine sucks as bludgeoning weapons, whereas slashing or hacking weapons... eh, I've no experience with the stuff, but either they also had different armor or they were lucky.

Or it's the fact that it was 2 on 1.

As to the first, did you notice that the three had the adamantine?
One of them had silver. Which, in fact, isn't quite sharp. Which doesn't matter with hammers. But I'm saying it anyway.
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Re: Holy...
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2011, 01:13:42 pm »

Meh, try the same experiment with copper vs silver.