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K17U

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That's the wrong side you idiot
« on: January 15, 2011, 07:40:16 am »

I wanted to make a couple of graves like so:
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|x|x|x|x|x|
|x|0|x|0|x|
|x|X|x|X|x|
|x|s|x|s|x|
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x = natural wall
X = constructed wall
0 = coffin
s = slab
+ = floor

But of course, instead of constructing the walls from the outside, my genius dorfs prefer to desecrate their fellow's graves instead. And I was hoping a present building would prevent them from standing on that tile when constructing (the slabs are not yet there, so the other tile would be free).

Any idea how I could make them stand on the other tile, and not bury themselves alive?
« Last Edit: January 15, 2011, 07:47:54 am by K17U »
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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 07:44:13 am »

You create 2 walls, one where you want the wall to be constructed, and one where you want the dwarves NOT TO STAND. Suspend construction on the wall where you dont want them to stand. Since dwarves dont like building on top of other construction, they will go to the other side. Like this...

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B
W
S

W = Wall to be built
S = Suspended wall
B = Where you dwarves will build from
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Forgotten Beasts seem to be akin to Toady playing Russian Roulette with your fortress, as they can be anything from harmless giant worms made of mud to necrotic-gas spewing nigh-invunerable iron hydras of doom.

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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2011, 07:46:12 am »

Well, I know about that trick, but obviously that won't work, because I can't construct a wall over an already present coffin.
And I can't remove the coffin, because there'd be no way to rebuild it after I walled the tile off.
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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2011, 07:51:41 am »

Set the entire graveyard to be restricted?
And the direction you want your dwarves to build as high traffic?

(d) - (o)
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Forgotten Beasts seem to be akin to Toady playing Russian Roulette with your fortress, as they can be anything from harmless giant worms made of mud to necrotic-gas spewing nigh-invunerable iron hydras of doom.

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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2011, 07:54:31 am »

Edit:
I tried the reverse, setting the wrong side as restricted.
I'm gonna try that too.

Edit 2:
Mixed results.
Two idiots walled themselves in, one actually did it as I intended.
I think I'm just gonna leave them there to let them reflect on their own stupidity
« Last Edit: January 15, 2011, 08:00:13 am by K17U »
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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2011, 07:56:11 am »

Send every dwarf who constructs on the wrong side to the magma chamber?

Should teach them to build on the right side! (This is when you know Im out of ideas...)
« Last Edit: January 15, 2011, 08:01:01 am by MrNuke »
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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2011, 08:50:52 am »

mine it out and rebuild the wall
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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2011, 09:52:48 am »

mine it out and rebuild the wall

Yeah, not the solution I wished for, but seems like there's no other way

Here's what I did exactly, in case somebody is interested
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|x|x|x|x|x|
|x|0|x|0|x|
++|X|+|X|++
+++++++++++
+++++++++++

For some reason they still prefer constructing the walls from atop the coffin, but now they can at least walk away when they're done.
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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2011, 01:57:35 pm »

Dwarves prefer building from a certain direction. I believe it goes west-east-north-south
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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2011, 02:24:27 pm »

Yeah, next time you do something like this and want the coffins sealed off with a single wall, flip the design so that the wall to be constructed is north or west of the coffin.

That new design would look good with some statues blocking the coffin access.
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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2011, 03:23:27 pm »

Dwarves prefer to  build from the top or left, so design accordingly.
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Re: That's the wrong side you idiot
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2011, 05:01:45 pm »

That new design would look good with some statues blocking the coffin access.

I've build walls on those tiles now, so that the design looks like I originally intended.
Though statues would've been cool too.
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