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Author Topic: World in Conflict / Company of Heroes / Men of War  (Read 5734 times)

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World in Conflict / Company of Heroes / Men of War
« on: January 15, 2011, 01:19:46 am »
World in Conflict or Company of Heroes?

My post-steam sale gaming budget decrees I may purchase one of these games.  I've only ever played one 'modern set' RTS, C&C Tiberium Wars and as such have no clue which is best.

Any chance of some rating regarding graphics, AI, gameplay, difficulty and potential for actual strategy?
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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 01:24:03 am »
Haven't played WiC. CoH was pretty solid. It doesn't play out like C&C, though. Basically descended from the Dawn of War legacy, if that helps any. If not... too tired to explain better. WiC seems to be prettier, going by screenshots. I'd be getting CoH :P

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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2011, 02:08:30 am »
Rating? A rating compared to what? They're very different games.

World if Conflict is about very tactical decisions with heavy, heavy micromanagement. You don't have to worry at all about resource management or balance issues or anything of the sort, just who can use their units the best. It's to RTS much like how DoTA is to Warcraft 3. It's also very team oriented.

Company of Heroes is more conventional. There are balance issues up the wazoo (anyone who tells you otherwise is smoking something strong) and it can get very intense. It's not as macro heavy as things like Supreme Commander, each unit in CoH is very important and each unit is very important. But the atmosphere and the experience of CoH is quite spectacular and there's nothing else quite like it. You can also technically play it for free here: http://www.companyofheroes.com/. The client has the full singleplayer campaign.

Both have very fun singleplayer campaigns. World in Conflict in particular has a bunch of missions where they put you in this last stand mode and give you unlimited numbers of "superweapons". Those are awesome. xD
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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 03:49:19 am »
Well CoH can be a bit disturbing... this is an ingame pic nothing has been touched or edited in any way...



I was randomly moving the camera after the final explosion of the ennemy HQ and this one was ... NICE
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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2011, 05:09:36 am »
I recommend you CoH.
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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2011, 05:24:21 am »
I recommend you Men of War: Assault squad.
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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2011, 06:16:12 am »
CoH is pretty solid. Double plus solid if you're not sick of WW2 yet. The SS illustrates why the game is so good.

I only played about 20 mins of WiC. It seemed like...the perspective is pulled out, and it's more about the bombing runs and what not. Not quite as detailed as CoH either.
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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2011, 09:21:07 am »
I'd like to join the fella who recommended Men of War. its alot less polished, much harder, closer to being realistic, require much more thinking (CoH is abit arcadic), but the best part is that you can actually wear the hats of your dead enemy bodies lying around.
what else can you possibly ask from an rts?!

Aside from those things, both games are really good, and honestly id say save up and buy both CoH and MoW. (i havent enjoyed WiC as i had enjoyed the others)
also a plus, both games has a really good modding community behind them.
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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2011, 10:08:30 am »
Men of War.
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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2011, 11:01:39 am »
Company of Heroes?

GRGRGERGRGGGHHGH *mouth froths*

No, seriously, go get Men of War. Please. It's free right now, and everything Burningpet said plus more. Please.
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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2011, 11:16:30 am »
What's this about MoW being free? Link?
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Re: I invoke the wisdom of Bay12
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2011, 11:24:52 am »
Men of War: Assault Squad is currently in a free beta. You can grab it on steam.

EDIT: It appears that they want 20,000 people in its steam group to continue the beta; currently we have ~16,500. So yeah, shameless advertising and whatnot.
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2011, 11:36:11 am »
As far as singleplayer goes, I'd recommend CoH over WiC. WiC's singleplayer really really sucked as far as I've played it. Here come the mindless Russian hordes! Deploy your defenses and watch them mash the approaching enemy for 20 minutes!

And CoH isn't much of a conventional RTS. You've got base-building and resources, but it's more so based around pushing forward, controlling as much of the map as possible (it's how resources are "gathered"), and lots and lots of micromanagment to keep your soldiers from standing out in the open and your tanks from displaying their behind.

I'm pretty sure there's demos of both of these games, though. Including a f2p online version of CoH. So I'd say you're better off seeing for yourself.
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Re: World in Conflict / Company of Heroes / Men of War
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2011, 04:30:20 pm »
Well, there's beena bit of a delay but I finally purchased the MoW series in the recent Steam sale.  I'm not too far into it now and the gameplay seems pretty awesome, but the controls are rather counter intuitive and there is literally no tutorial whatsoever.  Maybe it's my fault for not reading the manual (I wanna blow up tanks instead), but things are pretty confusing to figure out.

Also just bought CoH + CoH:OF and I'm hoping for a somewhat better learning experience with them.  I'm pretty damn surprised that a 2006 game takes up 9gb though.
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Re: World in Conflict / Company of Heroes / Men of War
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2011, 04:42:10 pm »
Quote from: lordcooper on May 10, 2011, 04:30:20 pm
Well, there's beena bit of a delay but I finally purchased the MoW series in the recent Steam sale.  I'm not too far into it now and the gameplay seems pretty awesome, but the controls are rather counter intuitive and there is literally no tutorial whatsoever.  Maybe it's my fault for not reading the manual (I wanna blow up tanks instead), but things are pretty confusing to figure out.

Also just bought CoH + CoH:OF and I'm hoping for a somewhat better learning experience with them.  I'm pretty damn surprised that a 2006 game takes up 9gb though.
I hope you got Assault Squad too.
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