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[Farseer]

I've had Dawn of War II for a long time but, after having quite a few bad / annoying experiences with both the gameplay and Games for Windows Live, I gave up on it.

Started playing it again today and it's actually pretty fun in a way that's completely different to Dawn of War. It's small squad based combat instead of the massive gangbangs that you had in DoW and it's on far smaller maps. The gameplay is much faster paced and tighter because of that, but it's no big thing.

The game itself is gorgeous, they did great graphical work, even if it does seem to be pretty poorly optimised. I enjoy it, anyway, even if most of it does get smashed up by explosives by the end of the game.

The most fun I'm having however is in Last Stand mode which is kinda like those old "7 Samurai" maps from Warcraft 3. It's just damn fun. I just need people to play it with.

Retribution is coming out soon, and I've heard it's removing the Games for Windows Live requirement, which will be absolutely beautiful if it's true. If not, I can deal with it.

Anyone else got Dawn of War 2 and want to have a game of Last Stand / co-op campaign?

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I know there are other threads, but it's been awhile since they've been posted in.

EDIT: The Retribution beta is soon on it's way to everyone who owns any DoW2 game.

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THQ has already offered gamers one reason to preorder its next Warhammer 40,000 strategy sci-fi title, Dawn of War II - Retribution, through Steam: in-game bonuses for the Ork faction. Now, the recently rebranded publisher has given gamers one more reason to prepurchase the game through Valve's online distribution service, one that is likely to amplify the Orks' Waaagh!

Today, THQ announced the details of Retribution's beta-testing phase, which is scheduled to begin for select Dawn of War community members on January 31. One day later, THQ will invite into the beta program anyone who has preordered Retribution through Steam. On February 8, the beta phase will open up to anyone who has bought an installment in the Dawn of War franchise and registered it through Steam.

THQ notes that there will be no open-registration phase for Retribution's beta, and invites to the testing window will be sent out automatically. The beta period will run through February 24, and THQ plans to release a day-one patch to incorporate balancing data upon the game's full PC release on March 1.

As for what gamers can expect, the beta test will feature all six multiplayer races, including the new Imperial Guard faction. Also included will be all of the new units being introduced with the game, as well as Retribution's multiplayer maps.

[hemmingjay]

i have it and have just started playing.

[Farseer]

i have it and have just started playing.

Have you tried Last Stand, yet? It's pretty damn fun. Can't wait until I get Chaos Rising, because the Tyranid and Chaos heroes just seem epic from watching others play them.

[hemmingjay]

i played my first round today and it was indeed a blast. I died a lot as an Ork Boss, but I can see the addiction. Let's hope you win the Snow Day giveaway so you can get chaos rising.

[Fishbreath]

Retribution will indeed be switching from GFWL to Steamworks.

I've played DoW2 on and off for a while. I keep on meaning to get into the multiplayer scene, but that's a little bit more daunting than the campaigns and The Last Stand, and the Imperial Guard is by far my favorite part of the WH40k canon, so I figure I'm waiting for Retribution for that. I'd be willing to play a few games of The Last Stand or some friendly standard multiplayer if people are up for it.

[Farseer]

i played my first round today and it was indeed a blast. I died a lot as an Ork Boss, but I can see the addiction. Let's hope you win the Snow Day giveaway so you can get chaos rising.

Ordered it from play.com already. :p It was the only place that had it for £10, even if I do have to wait 5 days for it.

Retribution will indeed be switching from GFWL to Steamworks.

I've played DoW2 on and off for a while. I keep on meaning to get into the multiplayer scene, but that's a little bit more daunting than the campaigns and The Last Stand, and the Imperial Guard is by far my favorite part of the WH40k canon, so I figure I'm waiting for Retribution for that. I'd be willing to play a few games of The Last Stand or some friendly standard multiplayer if people are up for it.

Does it apply retroactively, too? ie. to both Chaos Rising and the original game? If that's the case, HELL YES.

I wish the matchmaking process for both multiplayer and the Last Stand modes was a bit better. At the moment, you get paired with people of pretty much any ability level in multiplayer and you get paired with people from halfway across the world in The Last Stand who inevitably get kicked (purely automatically) due to lag. Also, it keeps using my machine as the server host, which is pissing me off. :p

[Asehujiko]

Does anybody know what's the cheapest place to get the non-crippled version in the netherlands? Amazon.de is listing the bad one a €30 ad doesn't have a price for the full game and as far as I know, not a single local retailer is carrying it.

[Farseer]

Crippled version?

And, if these guys deliver to the Netherlands, they'll probably be the cheapest.

[Fishbreath]

Does it apply retroactively, too? ie. to both Chaos Rising and the original game? If that's the case, HELL YES.

I wish the matchmaking process for both multiplayer and the Last Stand modes was a bit better. At the moment, you get paired with people of pretty much any ability level in multiplayer and you get paired with people from halfway across the world in The Last Stand who inevitably get kicked (purely automatically) due to lag. Also, it keeps using my machine as the server host, which is pissing me off. :p

Retribution's going to be pretty much a standalone game--you get all the factions and all the campaigns whether or not you have Chaos Rising and the original.

Matchmaking is a bit of a pain, to be sure. I know that some of the multiplayer matchmaking problems stem from the fact that for the first five games, your Trueskill ranking is hidden and starts at 25, and some of the rest from the fact that there aren't all that many people playing, but most of it comes from the fact that GfWL is a really, really bad framework. <.<

[nenjin]

I own it. Was there for beta, release, yadda yadda.

To be honest, it's not my cup of tea. Despite everything it does right...I wasn't looking for a DotA-esqe 40k experience. The RTS/RTT, despite how many times it's been explained to me, is not what the game was billed as.

I manage to have fun but, the campaign was a pretty big let down for me, and that kind of killed my motivation to stay with the game.

[inteuniso]

Yeah, it's a fun game, but it just ain't Dawn of War. It simply doesn't have the epic battles I would expect from the 40K series.

[Digital Hellhound]

I'd like to try a multiplayer campaign with someone, seems quite fun.

Anybody made it to the final round in Last Stand? I got there once with a great team, but, naturally, we all died instantly.

And a tip for anyone new to Last Stand; whatever you do, don't get stuck in with eldar melee infantry. You won't last a minute. I've seen too many players go down doing something like that. And after wave 9, teamwork is the key. So, better hope you get good teammates.

[Fishbreath]

I made it to the final wave twice and almost won it once. I've dragged some of my friends into playing with me, and once they get serious about winning, I think we've got a pretty good shot. You need three things to get to the end:

1. Lots of ranged AoE damage. The Chaos Sorcerer with Let The Galaxy Burn is the best option for this I've seen so far.
2. Lots of ranged single-target damage. The Hive Tyrant with the Venom Cannon wargear wins this. You can make him a near-invincible tank with the Genestealer Nest and Bio-Feedback, too.
3. A farseer with confuse, mass confuse, group teleport, and conceal. Without confuse and conceal you'll never make it past the mirror match at wave 16, because the Hive Tyrant and the Chaos Sorcerer will rip you apart.

[Farseer]

I've been playing the Last Stand, but I seem to always get stuck with people (like a mekboy with a teleport pak that teleported ALL the way over to the side of the map WITHOUT the tower) that don't understand that towers are meant to be capped. Whilst I'm running around like a mad(wo, I suppose)man on my Farseer, chopping up bitches and confusing the hell out of half the enemy troops that I come across.

We were on Wave 9 and I'd dealt with about five hovertanks, two warpspider squads and three banshee squads when I see this MASSIVE wave (about five squads) of banshees coming in on me and start getting shot at by a pair of hovertanks. I try to run away and confuse the tanks only for me to realise that my two other team mates (who had been sitting with each other on the other side of the map) had manage to get beat by a group that would've been pathetic if it wasn't for the fact I was low on energy. Then again, I was with a space marine who was using a bolter and no jump pack and a level 12 chaos sorceror using that stupid sword instead of the warp staff, so I shouldn't really be surprised.

My GfWL ID is Dawnherald. Add me. >:

[Digital Hellhound]

(like a mekboy with a teleport pak that teleported ALL the way over to the side of the map WITHOUT the tower)

There's nothing wrong with this. The towers are shit, mobility is what you need. In later waves it's best just to hide behind a rock at the edge of the map and use AoE abilities, though, as it's nigh-impossible to avoid the hordes.