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[Earthquake Damage]

Things are rather civilised down here when it comes to anything that can be used as weapons.

Them's fightin' words!

Consider:  Glass bottles, chairs, tire irons, baseball bats, hammers, saws, automobiles, fists...

[Andir]

This slope sure is slippery.

Yeah, I'm going to bed.

You call it civilized, I call it child rearing and restrictive.  I want my toys... especially the cool lasers that can burn stuff.

[Max White]

Things are rather civilised down here when it comes to anything that can be used as weapons.

Them's fightin' words!

Consider:  Glass bottles, chairs, tire irons, baseball bats, hammers, saws, automobiles, fists...

I said civilised, not regulated. We try not to stab each other with glass bottles.

[Earthquake Damage]

I said civilised, not regulated. We try not to stab each other with glass bottles.

The way you used "civilized" seemed to imply "regulated", so I named a few of the great many things that can be used as weapons but (I hope) are not regulated.

If by "civilized" you instead meant you're non-violent, I ask this:  You try not to stab each other with (broken) glass bottles, so they remain unregulated.  Yet you're so barbarous as to be untrustworthy with knives?

[Sir Finkus]

I'm off to bed too

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With a gun on my bedside table, which I'm sure is causing gun violence to increase for some reason...

[Max White]

Yep!
Nobody gets to purchase a knife from a vendor untill the age of 18. The restrictions are rather harsh arn't they... Also, you can get arrested for carrying one in the street.

[Neonivek]

I'm off to bed too

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With a gun on my bedside table, which I'm sure is causing gun violence to increase for some reason...

It just whispers to the wind don't it?

[Nikov]

My Mauser calls out to me, yearning to let Communist blood once again.

Kill Bolsheviks... Avenge my former master...

I sleep with the radio on anymore.

[Phmcw]

My Mauser calls out to me, yearning to let Communist blood once again.

Kill Bolsheviks... Avenge my former master...

I sleep with the radio on anymore.

You sure it come from the east front. He could be coming from the west front, muttering you pro gun idea in the sole aim to increase mortality rate in America.

For the matter of regulated weapon (yes, combat knives are forbidden here, as well as nunchucs...) of course, we try to reduce any access to thing which may allow you to cause an harm to someone, within reason.
But it's amusing that you mention glass, in some events (large concert, festivals...) glass are forbidden and drinks must be served in plastic glasses, yes because hey may be a tool for aggression.
yup, that's for Belgium and for France.

Andir, Finkus, I'm happy to see that you both have prepared reasonable plan for dealing with intruder should they enter your house. But then, is the event that the robber deliberately choose to get up the stair likely enough to use a full 1000$ to improve your chances in this case? A baseball bat wouldn't do the trick?

Anyway, all we all can see, the difference between Europe (and Australia) and America is the way weapon are treated, as well as resorting to violence as a whole.

It's been an interesting discussion so far, for me.

[Urist is dead tome]

You guys do have police, right? Use them!

Police aren't meant for protection of citizens. Not in America at least.

I do keep a gun at my bedside table when I sleep

And that's exactly what I'm speaking about. You have no reason to believe you may get murdered but you keep a gun near your bed while you sleep as an insurance.
In Belgium you would be called paranoid. In America it's ok, apparently.
And on the moral aspect, you're getting ready to kill. Not to defend yourself, to kill whoever attack you. There is a distinction.
The fact that this distinction is lacking in America, that the gun ownership is high, that guns aren't required to be stored in a safe... all that can only make gun-crime flourish whenever crime is high (or even medium).

Having people store guns in safes has caused more than a couple of deaths. For example, in California two small girls were pitchforked to death because their father couldn't get his gun in time. The murderer was a crazed drug addict.

In California it is required that you must store ammunition and the gun itself separately. And California is now one the most dangerous states in the union.

phmcw, I'm afraid you have been ill informed what makes crime flourish.

[Phmcw]

In California it is required that you must store ammunition and the gun itself separately. And California is now one the most dangerous states in the union.

You give one example and make it pass for an argument.
On the exemple below, the father could have saved the girl if he didn't rely on his gun. Locked in a safe, reaching it would have been too long indeed.But would he have the time to reach it if it was upstairs in his bedroom?
Had he wrestled the drug addict instead, the outcome may have been different. (it is wide speculation anyway.)

I can give you a lot of example of developed countries where poeple don't rely on they guns for defense, and ALL of them have a lot less murder than America.

I'm afraid you have been ill informed what makes crime flourish.

[Urist is dead tome]

But he probably would have been killed had he attempted to wrestle someone with an advantage such as a pitchfork.

Instead of guns what do you think people should use?

[Phmcw]

If you must in a somehow regular basis fight to survive, there is a problem with you society : hardcore drug, chronic gang criminality, ...
Gun just somehow add to it by making everyone on edge (even a basic police control must expect you to have a gun).

Instead of arming themselves, citizen should fight criminality to their roots, adding more gun would only marginally worsen the problem.

So instead of gun use social security, legalize pot, fight  hard drugs, make shelters for homeless poeple, make drug addict follow treatment instead of sending them to prison, legalize prostitution, reduce social inequalities, provide decent education for everyone, and fight unemployment.

Edit : You could also use pepper spray I guess, but I don't endorse the use of teaser and other paralyzing weapon : they make abduction too easy.

[Andir]

But he probably would have been killed had he attempted to wrestle someone with an advantage such as a pitchfork.

Instead of guns what do you think people should use?

Chairs.  It works for Jerry Springer.  Chairs solve all problems.

[Urist is dead tome]

If you must in a somehow regular basis fight to survive, there is a problem with you society : hardcore drug, chronic gang criminality, ...
Gun just somehow add to it by making everyone on edge (even a basic police control must expect you to have a gun).

Instead of arming themselves, citizen should fight criminality to their roots, adding more gun would only marginally worsen the problem.

So instead of gun use social security, legalize pot, fight  hard drugs, make shelters for homeless poeple, make drug addict follow treatment instead of sending them to prison, legalize prostitution, reduce social inequalities, provide decent education for everyone, and fight unemployment.

Edit : You could also use pepper spray I guess, but I don't endorse the use of teaser and other paralyzing weapon : they make abduction too easy.

Because everyone knows that it's that easy. I personally don't know why no one thought of this before.

Not really. You have this attitude about you that you think politicians are dumb and you have the ultimate solution. I admit I've acted this way before. But not for something this big.

Also you never tell how one would or even could go about doing all this.