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[Nirur Torir]

Litast lets people do whatever they want and Kogan doesn't even pretend to be in charge. Great leadership team right here.

Hey, it's not my fault that my Unaware trait didn't reduce the effectiveness of my arguments.

[IronyOwl]

Shade-o, what are the materials needed for assembling a full wagon?

[Rolan7]

... well, I want to send people but nobody puts me in charge.

Actually you know what, to heck with it, I already do most of the mining plans and am not afraid of bold leadership, I'll send people without asking anybody else, consequences be damned.

Fuckin finally.  You know I look to you for leadership anyway, right?
I'll "lead" the expedition as a guide, as soon as we're sent off (after the trial, I imagine).

[Ochita]

Rolan, mind me being a trader..? Also teaching me some elven talk?

[Shade-o]

Shade-o, what are the materials needed for assembling a full wagon?

A lot more metal than you have right now.

[Ochita]

...
Better get to mining out that ore then...

[V-Norrec]

Yeah... but I hate making the living quarters look like shit just for some metal that we can't even identify.  It might just be a bunch of tin, what a joy that would be to figure out.

[IronyOwl]

I'm torn on that one. On the one hand, a wagon could be very helpful.

On the other, the whole operation would be a massive pain. How deep is this metal supposed to be?

[Ochita]

Well... We *Could* melt some metal armor... But would that really be enough... Would it be worth it?

Could we not use the carts we have... And isnt there one in the forest?

[IronyOwl]

I doubt smelting down our metal armor would be worth it, even if it was sufficient.

We can use the carts, but last time there was more than we could carry in them. I imagine a wagon would increase our capacity. Of course, I'm not sure how useful that will or won't be once we stop pillaging the expedition site.

The wagons they had were sunk into the mud. We could bring shovels and excavate them, though it'd likely require at least another night in the forest of doom, but the treants were stripping everything else of metal; there's no guarantee they wouldn't be similarly pillaged and therefore useless.

[V-Norrec]

I vote we just use the current carts, I'll get started on having the fortress dig out some metal.

[Shade-o]

Possible metal ores in granite:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Native Silver
Native Gold
Native Electrum
Native Aluminium
Magnetite
Anglesite
Pentlandite
Cerussite
Cinnabar
Galena
Cassiterite
Bismuthinite
Rutile
Pitchblende
Cobaltite
Pyrolusite
Tetrahedrite

Therefore, possible metals in granite (though you are not aware of some of these):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Iron
Aluminium
Silver
Gold
Lead
Tin
Mercury
Bismuth
Cobalt
Titanium
Manganese
Uranium

Plus all those other things you find like gems and such.

[Ochita]

Possible metal ores in granite:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Native Silver
Native Gold
Native Electrum
Native Aluminium
Magnetite
Anglesite
Pentlandite
Cerussite
Cinnabar
Galena
Cassiterite
Bismuthinite
Rutile
Pitchblende
Cobaltite
Pyrolusite
Tetrahedrite

Therefore, possible metals in granite (though you are not aware of some of these):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Iron
Aluminium
Silver
Gold
Lead
Tin
Mercury
Bismuth
Cobalt
Titanium
Manganese
Uranium

Plus all those other things you find like gems and such.

I'm glad I looked at the Df wiki.

[Nirur Torir]

Mmmmm, I'd like for you to stay here, but there really isn't any reason too, so sending you to be another dwarf on the expedition is probably a good idea.  You can take my leather armor and I'll make a shield out of wood for you, should make your life a little bit easier and/or safer.

List of people I'm sending on the expedition:

Adil, Urist, Sandow (criminals make great bait for traps... just sayin'), Athor, and ermm... Tor ((DDP's character))  That's 1 guide, 1 craftsman, 1 trap bait, 2 soldiers.  I expect this to work swimmingly.  You can also force the trap bait to do trading for you.  I suspect this will work out well for everyone.

Norrec's decision here will stand, then, as multiple people seem to be in favor of it. If anyone has any complaints about this, please see me. Or maybe our real leader.


Kogan's so very responsible, finishing his letter during a trial. (I believe he writes his letters a bit at a time, when he finds himself with nothing to do.)

Spoiler: Letter to Tosid (click to show/hide)

((Scribbled in the margins are quick sketches of walls.))

Letter 3
To Tosid

Although I still have yet to start on the main wall, a few strategically placed boulders serves as an impromptu fence for our encampment. I'm currently working to replace it with a simple wall about three meters high, from which we should be able to defend ourselves until I have the labor and materials to build the main walls. They will be glorious structures, far better then anything the humans could do. Each one will be slightly taller then the next. Should one fall, our defenders would be able to retreat, and they'll be built so that our military will be able to fire at the invaders of the outer walls with ease. An array of ballistae and catapults, carefully constructed so as to be unable to hit the other walls, will be able to easily smash any siege weaponry the goblins bring. Should they somehow get past all three walls, I've got several surprises in mind for them.

Kobolds were spotted trying to steal some of our possessions, but we killed some of them. One of our own was injured trying to kill them in their primitive camp, but she'll live.

Our food and booze supplies continue to dwindle. Some of our brave dwarves went to the elves to trade for more supplies, and were ambushed by treants. I'm not quite sure what happened, but they brought back enough to keep us going for a while longer.

Our noble is on trial right now, accused of hording supplies for his own benefit. I don't feel like I belong here as part of the trial, but apparently one of my duties as second-in-command has something to do with needing to be able to stand as one of the judges in case our leader is not present to do so, and so I'm partially listening. Seems easy enough, even if it's time consuming.

[V-Norrec]

Watch it be Uranium... we're going to get fucking cancer.  Ah well, at least if most of those are somewhat useful or valuable, I'll give in and mine it up.