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[penco]

I want to make the tastiest meals possible to export and feed my dorfs, but the wiki is a little weak on the value of most ingredients.

To my knowledge, the most valuable ingredient is cheese and 50, and then flour at 20 or 25. I found the value of the boozes as well.

So can anyone tell me the value of...

-plants
-fish
-meats
-syrups
-any other foodstuff I am forgetting

[UristMcDwarf]

Don't forget the minced wine.

[Zrk2]

And firefly brains.

[G-Flex]

Check the wiki, starting here and possibly also at the page for material and item values: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Food

[Xenos]

Quarry bush leaves are excellent filler because they add quantity to your meals which will boost value, elephant meat is another excellent source of very large, valuable, ingredient stacks. And if you are using cheese, use dwarven cheese (value of 100) with 1-3 filler items (large stack items, not necessarily valuable) and 0-2 other high value items.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Try dwarven syrup for filler.

[Xenos]

Try dwarven syrup for filler.

How many units of syrup are gained per unit of plant?  I know with quarcain that you get 5 leaves per plant.  When you can easily get stacks of 5 plants and even stacks of 8 (possibly more, im  not sure what the cap is) that gives stacks of 25-40+ leaves.  The only filler i know of that will exceed this is meat butchered from large animals.  Forgotten beasts, elephants and the like.  (if you like modding elephants to leave a pile of 1k+ meat as a baby, as I do, you get super happy meals)

[G-Flex]

Try dwarven syrup for filler.

How many units of syrup are gained per unit of plant?  I know with quarcain that you get 5 leaves per plant.  When you can easily get stacks of 5 plants and even stacks of 8 (possibly more, im  not sure what the cap is) that gives stacks of 25-40+ leaves.  The only filler i know of that will exceed this is meat butchered from large animals.  Forgotten beasts, elephants and the like.  (if you like modding elephants to leave a pile of 1k+ meat as a baby, as I do, you get super happy meals)

Dwarven syrup is pretty stupid. You get 5 units per plant, like with leaves, yet the value is 20 or 25 per unit, like sugar/flour. This makes it something like 4-6 times as valuable as any other plant in the game.

[morikal]

Try dwarven syrup for filler.

How many units of syrup are gained per unit of plant?  I know with quarcain that you get 5 leaves per plant.  When you can easily get stacks of 5 plants and even stacks of 8 (possibly more, im  not sure what the cap is) that gives stacks of 25-40+ leaves.  The only filler i know of that will exceed this is meat butchered from large animals.  Forgotten beasts, elephants and the like.  (if you like modding elephants to leave a pile of 1k+ meat as a baby, as I do, you get super happy meals)

Dwarven syrup is pretty stupid. You get 5 units per plant, like with leaves, yet the value is 20 or 25 per unit, like sugar/flour. This makes it something like 4-6 times as valuable as any other plant in the game.

That's because its liquid dwarf-crack.

[gtmattz]

Dwarven syrup and quarry bush leaf roasts are hands down the most valuable food item.  However, I have noticed a bug of sorts where, if there are quarry bush leaves available to be cooked, your chef will cook ONLY the leaves, regardless of how far away from the kitchen they are stored while ignoring any and all liquid ingredients.  To alleviate this, I have turned to using whip vine flour instead, as it has the same value as quarry bush leaves, but if I store my dwarven syrup right bside the kitchen, and the flour further away, the chef will correctly grab one whip flour and 3 syrups for a lavish meal.

[G-Flex]

Dwarven syrup and quarry bush leaf roasts are hands down the most valuable food item.

Not quite. Quarry bush leaves aren't valuable, you just get big stacks, and flour and sugar are competitive with syrup as far as per-unit price is concerned.

What you mean to say is that the stacks of roasts are most valuable. The individual roasts aren't so muchc.

[penco]

How is the value of a meal calculated? What is the most valuable meal?

[G-Flex]

Good question! I'm not entirely sure myself.

However, the most valuable meal would be a lavish meal (four ingredients), where the total and per-ingredient quality of the meal is all "masterpiece" and nothing but. It would also need the most valuable per-unit food in the game. It seems to me that whip vine flour is (or is at least a tie for) the most valuable ingredient in the game, but I'm only looking at crops here; some animal meat might get higher. However, Forgotten Beasts (and probably randomly generated Titans) are bad candidates, because they have the default (i.e. lowest possible) body materials value.

[penco]

The most valuable ingredient is purring maggot cheese at 100, followed by other cheeses at 50.

So would a meal of 4 purring maggot cheeses be best? Or does variety add to the actual value of a meal? Basically I am trying to decide whether it is worth my while to bother fishing or growing crops to be cooked, since the value is so much lower than cheese/flour/syrup.

I'm starting to think quarry bushes are worthless end-game where you want quality over quantity (quantity = bad fps, lower happiness). I am thinking I need to just make syrup, flour, and cheese, and then use plump helmets and strawberries to make booze only.

It would help if the value of fish and meat was given somewhere...

[G-Flex]

Variety doesn't add to actual value, but it might still matter since dwarves have varied tastes. A meal with four different ingredients might have a better chance of satisfying a particular dwarf's tastes, for obvious reasons.

But in terms of trade value, yeah, variety makes no difference.