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I will live inside the core town, working together with others.

8 (24.2%)

I want to live in the town, but have my own plot and do my own thing.

12 (36.4%)

I intend to hermit separately in the general vicinity.

8 (24.2%)

I do not want to join the village attempt.

5 (15.2%)

Total Members Voted: 33

[DJ]

There's also Nilfbanes, which are basically avenging ghosts with stats proportionate to their target. If you get somebody's criminal scents you can send a Nilfbane after him, and it'll engage him in combat as soon as he logs in / 24h have passed, whichever comes first, and if the ghost wins it'll kill the target. They used to be quite OP when they attacked in packs, but now they attack one by one so Nilfbane winning is fairly rare because NPCs in general suck at combat.

[Fikes]

Are there any defensive structures? You like Salem or HNH better at this point DJ?

[DJ]

Nah, no defences aside from walls yet, dunno what they're gonna do with siege system though. And I definitely like Haven better, Salem feels grindier and less sandboxy.

[kilakan]

Also, since you no longer get limited play time on a free account I am still offering to let anyone from bay12 into my village this world.  For you DJ if you want to live nearby and share resources/ect that offer is still available.

[Rift]

Just a heads up for the people who are still interested: the new world is coming online in less then a few hours (well, the devs posted saying within a few hours, like a hour ago). also includes the patchnotes for the new world. (mostly map changes: rivers, specific location resources, smaller world but spawn is random'd everyone instead of center-block.. also one of the alt-abuses[digging] is gone.. and siege changes: [catapults+claims=protective shields]).
Edit: also, you can have friends spawn near you via building a wilderness beacon (lasts a hour).
Edit2:or.. in like 2-3hours from now.

[DJ]

Also, they changed the payment model to the point where subscribing is more about appreciating their work than getting actual benefits.

There are no time limits in the game. Anyone may play as much as they like.
There is a level cap on Attributes & Abilities of 300 points. You can go higher than that using equipment and other stat bonuses.
Verified Accounts level up 10% faster (gain 10% more LP and FEPs) than Free Accounts, and can gain 10 more levels than Free Accounts (e.g. 310 total).
Subscribed Accounts level up 30% faster than Free Accounts, and can gain 30 levels more than Free Accounts (e.g. 330 total).
All subscription prices have been reconsidered, and are now starting at $7.

[werty892]

Also, they changed the payment model to the point where subscribing is more about appreciating their work than getting actual benefits.

There are no time limits in the game. Anyone may play as much as they like.
There is a level cap on Attributes & Abilities of 300 points. You can go higher than that using equipment and other stat bonuses.
Verified Accounts level up 10% faster (gain 10% more LP and FEPs) than Free Accounts, and can gain 10 more levels than Free Accounts (e.g. 310 total).
Subscribed Accounts level up 30% faster than Free Accounts, and can gain 30 levels more than Free Accounts (e.g. 330 total).
All subscription prices have been reconsidered, and are now starting at $7.

Also, they changed the payment model to the point where subscribing is more about appreciating their work than getting actual benefits.

where subscribing is more about appreciating their work than getting actual benefits.

appreciating their work than getting actual benefits.

actual benefits.

Subscribed Accounts level up 30% faster than Free Accounts, and can gain 30 levels more than Free Accounts (e.g. 330 total).

Lol.

I mean I see the reasoning. Eventually everyone will hit the cap and it's not as severe of a issue anymore. BUT, you do get actual benefits.

Do we have any plan set up for this? I'm just bored enough to try haven one more time.

[DJ]

That 30% is peanuts, totally not worth 7$/month.

Aw for plans, I have my regular crew Try kilakan for a B12 village.

[kilakan]

I mean, I have a village of 16 currently you are welcome to join if you like.  Just add me on skype as karhhan, should be a picture of Frankenstein's monster and i can add you to the skype group my village uses.

That 30% is peanuts, totally not worth 7$/month.

Also yeah, it's pretty pointless.  That's the same as a pearl necklace so...

[Moogie]

So, I'm massively out of the loop. Do custom clients still work? If so, can someone link to the 'best' one currently available, or whatever works with this new version of H&H?

[TD1]

So, I'm massively out of the loop. Do custom clients still work? If so, can someone link to the 'best' one currently available, or whatever works with this new version of H&H?

Same

[Moogie]

Wow. Just saw some screenshots. How long has the game looked like it was pulled out of Salem's dirty, unwashed ass? My god it got ugly! What the fuck!?

I don't think I'm interested in that client anymore... nevermind.

[Antioch]

I am suprised Haven 2 is as popular as it is, there are now 360 people playing.

I personally felt like the fundamental game flaws from haven 1 were in no way adressed.

Also their payment model was...less than ideal (for both parties that is).

[Exerosp]

Has Gandalf always told you to torch yourself?

[TD1]

Has Gandalf always told you to torch yourself?

I'm not entirely certain whether or not that 'r' was meant to be a 'u.'