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I will live inside the core town, working together with others.

8 (24.2%)

I want to live in the town, but have my own plot and do my own thing.

12 (36.4%)

I intend to hermit separately in the general vicinity.

8 (24.2%)

I do not want to join the village attempt.

5 (15.2%)

Total Members Voted: 33

[The13thRonin]

Actually, we all told him not to go down there.

I mean, really, you've only got yourself to blame, for ignoring the warnings :/

How was I meant to know how far South you meant? I thought you meant ALL the way down at base camp.

Well when somebody says "Don't go south, because there are people fighting foxes barehandedly, and not even getting hit."

Generally, you don't pull over to aid two people, to the south. Genius.

Nobody said that. Not while I was in range.

[Azkanan]

Actually, we all told him not to go down there.

I mean, really, you've only got yourself to blame, for ignoring the warnings :/

How was I meant to know how far South you meant? I thought you meant ALL the way down at base camp.

Well when somebody says "Don't go south, because there are people fighting foxes barehandedly, and not even getting hit."

Generally, you don't pull over to aid two people, to the south. Genius.

Nobody said that. Not while I was in range.

Yes they did, I was bloody there. Ye gods, you can't help but to lie, can you?

[The13thRonin]

Actually, we all told him not to go down there.

I mean, really, you've only got yourself to blame, for ignoring the warnings :/

How was I meant to know how far South you meant? I thought you meant ALL the way down at base camp.

Well when somebody says "Don't go south, because there are people fighting foxes barehandedly, and not even getting hit."

Generally, you don't pull over to aid two people, to the south. Genius.

Nobody said that. Not while I was in range.

Yes they did, I was bloody there. Ye gods, you can't help but to lie, can you?

What reason would I have to lie?

I insist that nobody said that while I was in range.

Also the blasphemy thing gets old fast...

[garfield751]

guys lets just clam the hell down here. whats been has been done and nothing we can do about it now. lets just figure out what were going to do.

[Azkanan]

Server is back up!

[Red]

Server is back up!

I wonder why it took so long.

[Azkanan]

Server is back up!

I wonder why it took so long.

When the server goes down, they spend time looking for what bugs may have added to it, from the error log, then fix them. That's why sometimes it takes a minute to restart, and other times a few hours.

[Red]

Server is back up!

I wonder why it took so long.

When the server goes down, they spend time looking for what bugs may have added to it, from the error log, then fix them. That's why sometimes it takes a minute to restart, and other times a few hours.

Yea, I figured that they were bugfixing or something.

[garfield751]

someone blocked off the storage i cant get in it

[Gara-nis]

Ok so wait... People were leaving in a caravan of sorts, and ronin got off his boat to be friendly to some random strangers on the side of the river and they proceeded to kill him?

[Neyvn]

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3696

[Cajoes]

I'll be perfectly honest...

This is not fun anymore.


Loosing is fun only really applies because you can learn from your mistakes and try to avoid them next run. What lessons do we learn from constantly watching our backs, hiding behind walls and just grinding up idiotic amounts of LP until your eyes bleed and your love for the game shrivels up like a dead husk simply because it's a absolute necessity and still getting killed to some tard in a bearcape and a shitty attitude.

Fuck if I know, grind even harder? Avoid any and all human contact? Kill him first in unwarranted agression?

Games online thrives and dies on social interaction, if you remove that, it just becomes a massive round of paranoia, it was bad enough last world, it's even worse now since you're almost guaranteed to get killed if you extend a friendly greeting and nothing will ever get done about it because that's how the world works.

What's the god damn point?

Sorry, but I've had it with this shit. Wake me up when the whitehats are back in control.

"To turn away in disgust is not cowardice."

[Sappho]

What is it about MMOs that turn the Bay12 community into a crowd of whiny siblings who can't stop arguing and calling each other names? The fact that this community is normally so friendly and reasonable and cool with each other is the reason I wanted to play other games with you all in the first place, but it seems every time this gang joins any kind of MMO together, everything turns into politics and personal grudges and all the fun is sucked right out of the game... I'll definitely be staying on my own a while longer. I'll still follow this thread in case things change (and of course if I later want to join the group I'll do my fair share of work on whatever projects are most important at the time), but based on past experience I'm not holding my breath.

Seriously though, guys. If people aren't having fun, it's not a game. It's a job. A job you're not even getting paid for. I, for one, am going to wander around teaching myself to play the game, probably very inefficiently, and I'm going to keep at it as long as it's fun. If I see people, I'll probably keep my distance based on what I've heard in this thread so far, but who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and meet some fun people. And maybe I'll get killed, and I'll either shrug it off and start over or quit playing if I don't feel it's worth starting over again. Whatever happens, I refuse to play any game which causes more stress than enjoyment.

[Cajoes]

What is it about MMOs that turn the Bay12 community into a crowd of whiny siblings who can't stop arguing and calling each other names? The fact that this community is normally so friendly and reasonable and cool with each other is the reason I wanted to play other games with you all in the first place, but it seems every time this gang joins any kind of MMO together, everything turns into politics and personal grudges and all the fun is sucked right out of the game... I'll definitely be staying on my own a while longer. I'll still follow this thread in case things change (and of course if I later want to join the group I'll do my fair share of work on whatever projects are most important at the time), but based on past experience I'm not holding my breath.

Seriously though, guys. If people aren't having fun, it's not a game. It's a job. A job you're not even getting paid for. I, for one, am going to wander around teaching myself to play the game, probably very inefficiently, and I'm going to keep at it as long as it's fun. If I see people, I'll probably keep my distance based on what I've heard in this thread so far, but who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and meet some fun people. And maybe I'll get killed, and I'll either shrug it off and start over or quit playing if I don't feel it's worth starting over again. Whatever happens, I refuse to play any game which causes more stress than enjoyment.

Seconded, except my stress treshold is much smaller.

[KoE]

If you guys are where I think you are, you've had the misfortune to set up between two warring factions. (I seem to recall goons being mentioned somewhere in this thread). I was in the same place, and I picked up and got outta there. No place in H&H is safe, but there are less dangerous ones than between those two.

People being total asshats really does put a sour taste in one's mouth, but every single random guy I've met has either interacted either nicely or just totally ignored me. In fact, Niltrias goes out of his way to reach out to people and I don't think it's ever bitten him. I'm not saying Cajoes' reaction is unwarranted, just trying to put it in perspective. The problem is it only takes one bad apple to spoil the barrel.

I wasn't going to comment on the in-fighting bit, since I don't really have a dog in the fight, but I will say I've seen what the B12 community can do if they rise above it. I sincerely hope that's what happens here.