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[vadia]

sorry, dropped the keyboard

I've said this before, and I'll say it again- reading into the NK is a recipe for WIFOM.  We have no idea why the scum picked NF, and we won't until the game is over and scum chat comes out.  I see no use in worrying about it until then.


Vadia, if you ignore the NK, who would you suspect then?

I still think Jim's manner of posting seems off.  I'll definately admit to the possibility that my brain is tunneling.

[Toaster]

Easy cure for tunneling:

Make a list of every other player.  Read through the thread, and any thing that any of those players says or does that sticks out as scummy, make a note of it.  Once you're done with that, read over those notes and see who seems to be the scummiest over the course of the game.

That's how I came up with the list that I posted D3.

[vadia]

I don't see anything much that hits my scumometer (though it's probably broken) 
Hey I didn't think D. looked particularly scummy until he roleclaimed.  (the timing seemed too convienient)

[Jim Groovester]

NF was nightkilled -- this person had knowledge or may have had knowledge that nf was sorcerer.  Jim mentioned that.  I think they fished the sorcerer and trumped up the jim thing -- which his story still doesn't hold water.  I want comfirmation about what happened.  And why is he so suspicious about revealing himself?

How does my story not hold water? It's the truth. You can't argue with the truth. It's just there.

IronyOwl, Jokerman-EXE, Nirur Torir, day ends tomorrow. Who are you planning on voting, and what are you waiting for?

[Nirur Torir]

Nirur:  You said yesterday that I was your top scum pick, apparently for being too townie.  Do you have any other reasons?  Who else do you suspect and why?

Just the day 1 air assist, but perhaps the scum didn't assist air, for WIFOM. That combined with feeling too townie isn't enough to vote for you at MYLO, especially not when there are people who are more likely to be scum.

I know that either Jokerman or Jim must be lying about their water assist.
I don't like the way Jim responded to the queries about his mysterious contact, but he feels more open and useful than Jokerman.

[IronyOwl]

Jim, of course.

[vadia]

How does my story not hold water? It's the truth. You can't argue with the truth. It's just there.

IronyOwl, Jokerman-EXE, Nirur Torir, day ends tomorrow. Who are you planning on voting, and what are you waiting for?

What would you have said if you were scum.

It isn't just the story, it's how you're posting -- it doesn't feel like your posts from sorcerer 1 +2 -- that's the best I have to go on.  I'm sorry if I'm wrong.  And I doubt that you can prove it otherwise.

So stop DEFENDING

[vadia]

arrrggh, typo.
And start attacking others and prove why they're scum.

[Jim Groovester]

How does my story not hold water? It's the truth. You can't argue with the truth. It's just there.

What would you have said if you were scum.

Be more specific. I have no idea what you're talking about. Quotes, they are helpful.

It isn't just the story, it's how you're posting -- it doesn't feel like your posts from sorcerer 1 +2 -- that's the best I have to go on.  I'm sorry if I'm wrong.  And I doubt that you can prove it otherwise.

This is a stupid reason to suspect anybody. You can bullshit a vague 'feeling' reason to suspect anybody and it doesn't really count for anything.

On thinking about my vote, I should focus on the issue that somebody lied about their assist than trying to lynch IronyOwl. So that's what I'm going to do. Unvote. Nirur Torir.

Nirur Torir, why'd you drop trying to find out who my contact is? I thought you wanted to know.

[Jokerman-EXE]

Nirur Torir has so far been cruising by off the radar, and then -

Oh dang, Jim beat me to it. Nirur, what were you hoping to gain from finding out this person's identity? The way I see it, it doesn't matter who it was, unless you're scum.

[vadia]

Jim how did you know whio targeted you on day 2?

[JanusTwoface]

Spoiler: Vote Count (click to show/hide)

>>> Vote Count <<<

Day Ends: ~13 hours
3 Feb 2011 @ 11:59 pm EST

Notes
There are no remaining Sorcerers.

Nirur Torir	(3)	- Jim Groovester, Jokerman-EXE, Toaster
Jim Groovester	(2)	- IronyOwl, vadia
Jokerman-EXE	(1)	- Nirur Torir
IronyOwl	(0)	-
Toaster	(0)	-
vadia	(0)	-
Not Voting	(0)	-
No Lynch	(0)	-

Let me know if I missed anything.

[Nirur Torir]

Nirur Torir, why'd you drop trying to find out who my contact is? I thought you wanted to know.

Because you were strangely aggressive in your defense of him. I didn't feel like arguing over it when I could figure it out by other means. In this case, by watching who else was strangely aggressively defensive over it.

Nirur, what were you hoping to gain from finding out this person's identity? The way I see it, it doesn't matter who it was, unless you're scum.

I wasn't corrected last time, and what has been claimed wasn't explicitly stated. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks like what you Jim and NF claimed happened:
1) You guessed NF's role.
2) You "tried to bait" Jim by throwing hints around about you being a sorcerer.
3) NF dies that night.
4) You're still alive, so Jim's obviously town, since, obviously, he's not experienced enough to realize that it's a trap.
5) Further conversation ensues. Jim decides that you being scum "wouldn't fit."
6) ...
7) I realize something's up. Both of you jump to defend yourselves and attack me, conveniently the 'extra' water assist.

Why, that would fit perfectly if you're both scum. Convenient too that Jim was the one to decide to jump right in on lynching somebody today.

(I don't see what's not to gain by discovering who figured out NF's identity the day before he died.)

Unvote Jokerman. Vote Jim. Both are scum.

[Jokerman-EXE]

So now I'm the contact? Really, Nirur? I'm also diggin' your nice OMGUS there.

You're lying about your assist. I know who I assisted last night, and Jim already proved that he did too (since he knew what he got from the assist, same as me). You're the scum.

[vadia]

toaster, since you're not diectly involved what do you think of the "strangely defensive tie in?