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NativeForeigner:There once was a man from the stix,
Who liked to write limerics.
But he failed at the sport,
Because he wrote them too short.
This one is beautiful. Made me laugh. 8-)
Vadia:You are dripping with scumtells. Since it's your first game I'm having a hard time deciding if this is just noobiness or a scum act/RIA. I tend to think you'd be more careful if you were noobscum, but you are saying things that are hard to ignore, like these:
how would you mislead me to act against my fellow townies?
I said it was a stupid idea, but I can't for the life of me see why.
I'm sorry that vadia the not fond of mafia player distracted y'all
Dude, don't friggin' give up so easily! This helps
no one. This is either a bold move by a noobscum or you're being a spineless townie. Man up and finish what you started, dammit!
The rhyming was fun though, Zath the first poem's for you
Yeah, it is loads of fun, but so is the mafia part. Don't give up. And yeah, I like that thread. 8-)
Toaster:Jim and Zath: Let's assume no FGDP was put in motion on D1. What would your reactions be to a D2:
1: Request for mass-assist-claim?
2: Unprovoked assist claim?
3: Claim that someone knew someone else's assist?
1. D2 mass assist claim would probably be unnecessary or premature; asking for it may be scummy, but not too much.
2. Depending on how useful/visible the assist-perks are, I think it's likely we'll be able to deduce who assisted what to some extent. In any case, an unprovoked assist claim would be fine in my book, as it may give useful information about N1 events.
3. Hmmm... I don't think that'll happen; how would one know? A sorcerer with powers like Jim in SA2 would, but wouldn't say because he'd be outing himself; anyone else would have no way of knowing... except PMs, maybe, but outing PMs is a different issue.
Nirur:Zathras, since you asked me about a plan: Do you feel that the risk of the plan-coordinater being scum is worth it?
Depends on the plan, of course, and the coordinator's scumminess is part of the factors to consider whether to go along with it or not. In general, I'm surprised that no plan has been proposed (I don't have a good plan, and suggest the default option of everyone supporting randomly, as being the statistically safest, but probably won't give much useful information for tomorrow).
Dariush:...you are saying here that you'd kill him even if he were your scumbuddy. That's... weird. If you were town with a daykill, would you use it on him at your first opportunity? If you were scum would you like him as scumbuddy, or would you truly try to kill him? (I don't think that's even allowed!)
Er, I meant I would kill him if he's town and attack him at day if he's scum. When I was rhyming my failoetry, some of the meaning got... lost from it.
To find how your mind is aligned
all these questions are surely designed.
If as scum you emerge,
the cancer we'll purge,
the path is inclined to be mined.
Isn't meta knowledge sufficient for you? And do the latter three rows have any meaning beyond making the limerick rhyme?
Now seriously, what are you intending to get from my answer? What would be your reaction if Jim is indeed NKed/not NKed?
Meta knowledge is never sufficient. It can help, but it must be supported by in-game reads. What I was trying to get was your reaction, and it was informative. As to my reaction to a NK, that'd depend on many factors, and it's useless to speculate at this point.
Toaster:Zathras: Whose playstyle here (of the ones you know) do you find hardest to read? Easiest? If you were scum, would that affect your choice of NK target?
Of the ones I know, probably IronyOwl or Nirur would be the hardest, but that doesn't mean I read the rest like an open book... rather I'd say they're equally opaque, none are easy or easiest. No, it wouldn't affect my NK choice, as I'd
know their alignment; at most, I'd try to off someone who can read
me, not the other way around.
Taco Dan:I'm voting vadia if only because the limericks are annoying.
Also I have nothing on anyone else so far.
Blatant bandwagon vote, with no reason. This on top of lurkiness and uselessness (not that I'm one to talk about that this game, but it's still bad).
Limericks are not annoying.
On you, my scumradar's deploying.
Your bandwagon vote
puts a rope 'round your throat,
Your squirming I'll be enjoying.
That's it for answers. My current scumpicks and a couple of questions:
Quite scummy:
Taco Dan: He posted his bandwagon vote with no reasons, and then promptly disappeared, hasn't done anything else but dropping that major tell. I'm thinking he's scum, and I'll vote him. Unfortunately, this ties the vote, so I hope the extension goes through. Since a no-lynch isn't helpful, if the tie is still in place by the end of day, I may change it.
Question for you: do you think vadia is scum? Why? Who else do you suspect? Why shouldn't we lynch you?
Dariush: He's quite scummy, and my second choice to hang.
Question: what is your read of Nirur and IronyOwl? Do you think Jim is scum? If so, why? If not, why are you voting him?
vadia: Dropped a number of major tells, but reads too much like a newbie town. I am disappointed that he disappeared after his self-vote, and unless he changes that he's a perfectly valid choice to hang today. If he's not going to be useful or is not interested, then we're better off without him, but I have a bad feeling that it'd be a mislynch.
Jokerman: Why haven't you placed a vote? RVS is over, why aren't you hunting? Who are your scumpicks and why? What's your read of Jim and Kamina?
Jim Groovester: Your thoughts on IronyOwl and Toaster, please. Also, I'm surprised at your lack of a plan, do you have any suggestions on how people should play their assists today?
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