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Author Topic: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Game over: Dark Sorcerers win again!  (Read 90489 times)

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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #180 on: January 22, 2011, 10:17:19 pm »

Irony why'd you switch your vote from me (towards end) to Taco dan?  Isn't that kinda like double bandwaggoning?
It could be considered vote-hopping from one bandwagon to another, but that would require I join one or both for no/flimsy reasons. Perhaps you shouldn't constantly reference scumtells if you don't know what makes them scummy.

In any case, something you pointed out struck me as clever townie thought more than scum thought, so I began to rethink whether you were scum. Suffice to say you're far from out of the woods, however.

sure I am, the sorceres prolly all scryed me ;P
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #181 on: January 22, 2011, 10:31:07 pm »

Jim: Vadia was still on my radar as possible scum, and I also was having trouble being comfortable with Dariush's use of meta. I hadn't yet decided which I wanted to vote for, and then I was gone all day. Sort of like today.

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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #182 on: January 22, 2011, 10:32:17 pm »

sure I am, the sorceres prolly all scryed me ;P
PLEASE tell me you don't think a sorcerer would claim to deliver a verdict on you either way?
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #183 on: January 22, 2011, 10:33:48 pm »

Perhaps you shouldn't constantly reference scumtells if you don't know what makes them scummy.

Just because you have ostensibly a reason doesn't mean it couldn't be scummy.
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #184 on: January 22, 2011, 10:35:25 pm »

[STUPID JOKE]sure I am, the sorceres prolly all scryed me ;P
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PLEASE tell me you don't think a sorcerer would claim to deliver a verdict on you either way?

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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #185 on: January 22, 2011, 10:38:02 pm »

Oh, did I say Moyl?  I meant MLoyl.

(maybe Lynch or you lose)

Assuming that 1 town vote goes to scum and scum has instakill. 

Which I do assume.


So this is (I assume) our last day,
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #186 on: January 22, 2011, 10:43:40 pm »

Could somebody (MOD?) let me know if the vote count is chronological so that I can ask about bandwagoning for me and Taco?
Vote counts list voters alphabetically. Those voted for are listed by descending number of votes with ties also broken alphabetically.
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #187 on: January 22, 2011, 10:49:25 pm »

Squirtle why'd you bother voting a 5th time on TD?  He was as good as lynched, wouldn't a newer vote bring mopre reactions?
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #188 on: January 22, 2011, 10:50:20 pm »

Perhaps you shouldn't constantly reference scumtells if you don't know what makes them scummy.

Just because you have ostensibly a reason doesn't mean it couldn't be scummy.
vadia. I'm beginning to suspect you don't have to be this spastic, but find it convenient.

So, which is it? Are you calling it a double bandwagon, or asking if it was one? If it's the former, please explain; if it's the latter, please explain how "it could be scummy even if you have a reason" means anything at all.


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Assuming that 1 town vote goes to scum and scum has instakill. 
This is more of that spastic strangeness. Are you trying to say that if one townie votes the wrong way the scum can hammer the target, or is "1 town vote goes to scum" your way of saying "if we lynch a townie?" If it's the former, no. If it's the latter, you can't honestly tell me you have to be this hard to understand. Why are you intentionally being incoherent?

So this is (I assume) our last day,
No and not quite. Unless scum get a second NK, lylo is tomorrow- today a mislynch leaves 3 scum out of 7 town. Secondly, this game doesn't end when scum equals town, but when town can no longer win; so even if we do pass lylo, assuming a sorcerer is still alive it's likely we have a chance.

More to the point, though, why is any of this relevant? You've been going on and on about how today is lylo and scum have three NKs and we'll lose a sorcerer, but it's never really been tied into anything. You don't seem to have been encouraging scumhunting or trying to remind everyone to be careful, so what is it? Why keep bringing it up out of nowhere?
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #189 on: January 22, 2011, 10:57:11 pm »

Perhaps you shouldn't constantly reference scumtells if you don't know what makes them scummy.

Just because you have ostensibly a reason doesn't mean it couldn't be scummy.
vadia. I'm beginning to suspect you don't have to be this spastic, but find it convenient.

So, which is it? Are you calling it a double bandwagon, or asking if it was one? If it's the former, please explain; if it's the latter, please explain how "it could be scummy even if you have a reason" means anything at all.


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Assuming that 1 town vote goes to scum and scum has instakill. 
This is more of that spastic strangeness. Are you trying to say that if one townie votes the wrong way the scum can hammer the target, or is "1 town vote goes to scum" your way of saying "if we lynch a townie?" If it's the former, no. If it's the latter, you can't honestly tell me you have to be this hard to understand. Why are you intentionally being incoherent?

So this is (I assume) our last day,
No and not quite. Unless scum get a second NK, lylo is tomorrow- today a mislynch leaves 3 scum out of 7 town. Secondly, this game doesn't end when scum equals town, but when town can no longer win; so even if we do pass lylo, assuming a sorcerer is still alive it's likely we have a chance.

More to the point, though, why is any of this relevant? You've been going on and on about how today is lylo and scum have three NKs and we'll lose a sorcerer, but it's never really been tied into anything. You don't seem to have been encouraging scumhunting or trying to remind everyone to be careful, so what is it? Why keep bringing it up out of nowhere?
I'm more pointing out to others that it looks a bit suspicious to me -- should we investigate more?

I meant that votes for house spells.  if 3 (a reasonable number for it) gives a N/k then it's a done deal with one town vote for that house.

Trying to figure out which house to vote so we don't lose.  but to be careful ain't bad.
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #190 on: January 22, 2011, 11:32:53 pm »

Irony why'd you switch your vote from me (towards end) to Taco dan?  Isn't that kinda like double bandwaggoning?

unvote Dariush (as a placeholder for Jim until his vote works  I'm not voting yet because I don't know.)

I would vote the crap out of you for this, but I obviously can't. I can manage without a useful vote because I can scumhunt without one.

So why are you piggybacking onto the way I intend to vote? So that you can avoid making one yourself?

Here: I really want to vote you. How about you be a doll and vote yourself? Would you do that for meeee? I mean it really shouldn't be too much trouble since you did it yesterday.

Jim: Vadia was still on my radar as possible scum, and I also was having trouble being comfortable with Dariush's use of meta. I hadn't yet decided which I wanted to vote for, and then I was gone all day. Sort of like today.

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Bah.

So, who do you want to vote today?
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #191 on: January 23, 2011, 12:28:29 am »

Irony why'd you switch your vote from me (towards end) to Taco dan?  Isn't that kinda like double bandwaggoning?

unvote Dariush (as a placeholder for Jim until his vote works  I'm not voting yet because I don't know.)

I would vote the crap out of you for this, but I obviously can't. I can manage without a useful vote because I can scumhunt without one.

So why are you piggybacking onto the way I intend to vote? So that you can avoid making one yourself?

Here: I really want to vote you. How about you be a doll and vote yourself? Would you do that for meeee? I mean it really shouldn't be too much trouble since you did it yesterday.

Jim: Vadia was still on my radar as possible scum, and I also was having trouble being comfortable with Dariush's use of meta. I hadn't yet decided which I wanted to vote for, and then I was gone all day. Sort of like today.

PFP

Bah.

So, who do you want to vote today?

Oh, wait -- I just realized; it's a spell -- I thought it was an error through the system (like Z's program was not working)unvote

That's scummy but if it's random, just have Twoface count it a bunch and eventually you'd get your vote back, no?
If it's via control see when the change happens and you've got the scum, no?

This may tell us which school it came from -- it feels like a 2nd level and the effect seems like air or water also -- so I think earth sounds safe to vote for.
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #192 on: January 23, 2011, 02:56:19 am »

Boy, you know all about it, don't you? It's almost like you did it yourself.

That's scummy but if it's random, just have Twoface count it a bunch and eventually you'd get your vote back, no?
If it's via control see when the change happens and you've got the scum, no?

There's no guarantee it just doesn't randomly change between votecounts to mock me. And I don't intend to put JTF through that kind of work just to get my vote where I want it.

And it's not by control. It would be a bit more constant than what it is if it were.
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #193 on: January 23, 2011, 04:19:49 am »

Jim: ...shit, still vadia and Dariush. There's really nothing I can gather from the NightKill, and their D1 play was unsatisfactory. I'd need to see more out of Dariush before I reach a decision.
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Re: Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia III - Day 2: Zathras has no manner of luck
« Reply #194 on: January 23, 2011, 05:22:46 am »

Jim: ...shit, still vadia and Dariush. There's really nothing I can gather from the NightKill, and their D1 play was unsatisfactory. I'd need to see more out of Dariush before I reach a decision.
And you feel your own D1 play was? Which questions are you waiting on Dariush to answer, since you haven't asked any of your own?
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