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Author Topic: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP  (Read 24637 times)

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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #195 on: January 10, 2011, 01:57:53 pm »

It will only become a meme if we keep on doing that.
No, really.
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« Reply #196 on: January 10, 2011, 02:00:10 pm »

It will only become a meme if we keep on doing that.
No, really.

It will only become a meme if we keep talking like that.

We keep talking like that.

Therefore, it will become a meme.
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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #197 on: January 10, 2011, 02:08:10 pm »

It will only become a meme if we keep on doing that.
No, really.

It will only become a meme if we keep talking like that. And we keep talking like that. Therefore, it will become a meme. it implys that we have the same mindset.
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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #198 on: January 10, 2011, 02:35:44 pm »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/09/gabrielle-giffords-shooting-rightwing-rhetoric

More controversy.

I may be wrong but I think  there were accusations of this guy being a right wing gun nut. Turns out he's a registered Democrat and was described as a "left-wing pothead".
« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 02:49:51 pm by Urist is dead tome »
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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #199 on: January 10, 2011, 02:52:54 pm »

Oh my Armok you really will believe everything you hear, won't you?

Quote from: The Arizona Daily Star
Loughner registered to vote for the first time in 2006, said Chris Roads, Pima County's registrar of voters. He registered as an independent and last voted in the 2008 general election.

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_78272a23-fe75-5bee-ba38-f8171cda3fb7.html

Next time, try actual sources.
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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #200 on: January 10, 2011, 02:54:38 pm »

hes getting info from England, not a very good source for information in Arizona.

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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #201 on: January 10, 2011, 02:58:35 pm »

That Guardian article didn't mention anything about his voter registration.
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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #202 on: January 10, 2011, 03:02:09 pm »

English news should do the research. Which means reading from american news and all that.
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« Reply #203 on: January 10, 2011, 03:15:05 pm »

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/01/jared-loughners-behavior-recor.html?hpid=topnews

Hears some good ol' American news. Doesn't say anything about his political choices though.

Oh my Armok you really will believe everything you hear, won't you?
Next time, try actual sources.

Hmmmm....
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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #204 on: January 10, 2011, 03:45:24 pm »

The guardian article never said he was a registered democrat.
They are just echoing the fact many link the murder and tea party rhetorics.

Now redking, you are a bit wrong, the bad thing isn't standing up against one's government, it's call for violence.
Pacifist aren't dirty hippies, and violence make poeple suffer. Maybe this death can serve to remind that.

Edit, now they said he is antisemitic. Giffords was Jewish. They said he may be linked with American renaissance. 
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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #205 on: January 10, 2011, 04:06:36 pm »

This whole thing is so garbled and corrupt that I'm just done watching it. Both parties are attempting to use a murder of six as a method to get more registrants. And I don't like it.
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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #206 on: January 10, 2011, 04:32:51 pm »

hes getting info from England, not a very good source for information in Arizona.
To be fair, the Guardian didn't actually say what Urist attached to them.  Anywhere in that article.
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« Reply #207 on: January 10, 2011, 04:40:56 pm »

This whole thing is so garbled and corrupt that I'm just done watching it. Both parties are attempting to use a murder of six as a method to get more registrants. And I don't like it.

Here's the thing.

Even if he had no direct links to the Tea Party movement, it still highlights how atrocious that movement's rhetoric is: The violent imagery, revolutionary dog-whistle political talk, gun imagery, "watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants", etc. This event highlights how seriously we should take such matters, instead of using revolutionary and violent speech for petty political gains. And when you try to normalize that kind of speech and thought as if it's nothing to even be concerned about, as if "second amendment remedies" are to be spoken of casually as if we're in the middle of a goddamn civil war or insurrection... then how can you be surprised when a violent wingnut on either side of the aisle (or neither) actually shoots someone?
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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #208 on: January 10, 2011, 04:43:25 pm »

This whole thing is so garbled and corrupt that I'm just done watching it. Both parties are attempting to use a murder of six as a method to get more registrants. And I don't like it.

Here's the thing.

Even if he had no direct links to the Tea Party movement, it still highlights how atrocious that movement's rhetoric is: The violent imagery, revolutionary dog-whistle political talk, gun imagery, "watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants", etc. This event highlights how seriously we should take such matters, instead of using revolutionary and violent speech for petty political gains. And when you try to normalize that kind of speech and thought as if it's nothing to even be concerned about, as if "second amendment remedies" are to be spoken of casually as if we're in the middle of a goddamn civil war or insurrection... then how can you be surprised when a violent wingnut on either side of the aisle (or neither) actually shoots someone?

Thanks for reminding me how much I hate both parties.

I don't know. I think I'm to extreme for a political party.
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Re: American Congresswoman Shot ; 11 others shot, 6 killed, RIP
« Reply #209 on: January 10, 2011, 06:01:54 pm »

You can't be too extreme to identify with one of the parties, you'd have to be too moderate.
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