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Author Topic: Ultimate Character Battle: Giga-Fort VS Karkat (I need help with this one)  (Read 37337 times)

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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #195 on: January 18, 2011, 11:32:39 pm »

Gah, if this was normal Marines I would have suggested a drop pod assault into the main base.

Now does these "stealth tanks" have a cloaking field or what?
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #196 on: January 18, 2011, 11:34:34 pm »

Stealth Tanks...
Well, they're local and I guess they use a field, considering the base cloaking technologies.
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #197 on: January 18, 2011, 11:43:16 pm »

Kane's enough of a magnificent bastard to pull it off, no sweat.
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #198 on: January 19, 2011, 12:07:00 am »

Battle Conditions Set!
Both Eliphas and Kane have arrived on a lush world, ready for conquering, and their forces have encountered each other!
The NOD forces are pinned down in a highly defendable position, while Eliphas's troops are assaulting them.
Both forces have been highly diminished by this point, worn down by multiple indecisive battles.


Well this breaks the "Combatants don't know each other" rule if they have already had indecisive battles. Prior battles tip the scales in Kane's favor for three reasons.

1: Kane is most likely a better leader, so he will be better able to adapt his to what he has seen from earlier battles.
2: According to other posters in this thread Eliphas's units and equipment are far less expendable than Kane's (Somewhat mitigated by the fact that they are on a fresh planet I guess)
3: Kane will have had time to seed and spread Tiberium, and he has been known to use that stuff to his advantage every so often :p

The only thing I can think of that may work to Eliphas's advantage is that he has NOD pinned down, possibly forcing Kane to partake in more conventional battle tactics, at which he is less successful.

Disclaimer: Everything I know about Eliphas I learned from this thread, so I may be missing something.
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #199 on: January 19, 2011, 03:07:37 pm »

Gah, if this was normal Marines I would have suggested a drop pod assault into the main base.

Now does these "stealth tanks" have a cloaking field or what?
They are cloaked, and only become uncloaked if either
a) detected
or
b) firing missiles.
The cloak comes back up pretty quickly. 20 of them + good strategy (and removal of most of the stealth detectors beforehand)  pretty much will win if you do it right.

Also, Hovercraft are not good near Tiberium. (no idea if 40K has them,but just mentioning it.)
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #200 on: January 19, 2011, 03:55:20 pm »

Gah, if this was normal Marines I would have suggested a drop pod assault into the main base.

Now does these "stealth tanks" have a cloaking field or what?
They are cloaked, and only become uncloaked if either
a) detected
or
b) firing missiles.
The cloak comes back up pretty quickly. 20 of them + good strategy (and removal of most of the stealth detectors beforehand)  pretty much will win if you do it right.

Also, Hovercraft are not good near Tiberium. (no idea if 40K has them,but just mentioning it.)

They don't have much in the way of armor or anti-infantry weapons, so they ain't god machines. I'd reckon that Kane would be better off fielding Avatars and Venom Gunships against heavily armored space marine infantry types. Eliphas may be in trouble if he lacks air power; Obelisks eat up infantry and armor alike.
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #201 on: January 19, 2011, 04:00:52 pm »

True, they are fairly weak armored. But they shoot pretty fast and with enough missiles you'll eventually hit them all.

Also, Beam Cannon-boosted obelisks or normal?
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #202 on: January 19, 2011, 04:05:00 pm »

I nominate Isaac!
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #203 on: January 19, 2011, 04:07:25 pm »

True, they are fairly weak armored. But they shoot pretty fast and with enough missiles you'll eventually hit them all.

Also, Beam Cannon-boosted obelisks or normal?

If Kane has enough of them, and Eliphas lacks airpower, I'd say it doesn't matter. But if Kane is using both Venoms and Obelisks it would make sense he'd have a few beam cannons around to work with both.
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #204 on: January 19, 2011, 04:10:49 pm »

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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #205 on: January 19, 2011, 04:24:05 pm »

So, to clear that part up, does Eliphas have air power or not?
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #206 on: January 19, 2011, 04:35:53 pm »

I would like to submit Davian Thule
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #207 on: January 19, 2011, 04:42:15 pm »

Slake moth, or multiple slake moths depending on who they are facing (best link i could find)
EDIT: and a Gold level necron lord (bit of a warhammer 40k glut going on in this thread methinks)
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #208 on: January 19, 2011, 04:48:54 pm »

So, to clear that part up, does Eliphas have air power or not?

I would say not initially, as that falls under the jurisdiction of the Dark Mechanicum, not the Word Bearers.
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Re: Ultimate Character Battle: Eliphas VS Kane!
« Reply #209 on: January 19, 2011, 04:54:33 pm »

I also nominate Max Payne while I'm at it.
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