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Johnfalcon99977

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Editing Magma forges (and smelters) to have at all times.
« on: January 06, 2011, 06:17:04 pm »
I *really* like magma forges. I embarked with magma once, now I am never going back. Ever.
I used DFhack to add magma to no surface magma maps, but I can't make magma forges. I found out I need to discover the magma sea to get magma forges, but the effort is too much. 2 dwarves can't mine into the magma sea alone.

So I want magma forges at all times. How do I do this?
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Re: Editing Magma forges (and smelters) to have at all times.
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 06:19:52 pm »
could you use a reveal like program to trigger it?

Maybe teleport a dog into it or something....

But you have honestly gone far enough to hack in magma... Why not go all the way and just mod in an infinite fuel reaction.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 06:22:21 pm by profit »
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Re: Editing Magma forges (and smelters) to have at all times.
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 06:29:08 pm »
......... Just damn it tell me.
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Re: Editing Magma forges (and smelters) to have at all times.
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 06:35:43 pm »
You can't.
Reveal will just prevent you from unlocking them ever.
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Re: Editing Magma forges (and smelters) to have at all times.
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 06:38:15 pm »
Quote from: fivex on January 06, 2011, 06:35:43 pm
You can't.
Reveal will just prevent you from unlocking them ever.

Why?
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Re: Editing Magma forges (and smelters) to have at all times.
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 07:42:34 pm »
Quote from: Johnfalcon99977 on January 06, 2011, 06:38:15 pm
Quote from: fivex on January 06, 2011, 06:35:43 pm
You can't.
Reveal will just prevent you from unlocking them ever.

Why?
You can't discover magma if it's already revealed, but if you use reveal, it's revealed but was never discovered.

You could, however, use reveal to find a place where there's a 3x3 column that never actually breaches the caverns, so you can dig a single-width up/down staircase from the surface all the way down to the magma sea without having to deal with caverns or any such thing. Find that location, designate the stairs, unreveal, then let the stairs get dug out to the magma sea. It feels much further than it actually is since we can't actually see the whole staircase, but a 30-z-level staircase takes just exactly as much digging as a 3x10 (short, in other words) hallway, so it isn't that extreme a project.
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Re: Editing Magma forges (and smelters) to have at all times.
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 11:10:00 pm »
Combine that with a small quick fort csv, transform using the 30d option, and bam. Cheap effective robot oil.
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Re: Editing Magma forges (and smelters) to have at all times.
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 11:24:59 pm »
But sorry there is no tool like DFtweak anymore that would enable magma buildings.

There also currently is no way to make them always available in the raws as far as I know.
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Re: Editing Magma forges (and smelters) to have at all times.
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 02:00:11 am »
if i remember correctly, the new reveal tool allows you to unreveal tiles and then you reveal them to circumvent the magma issues.
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