I think I'm just asking other people for the same courtesy. I'm not saying "Stop talking about ___ forever :I" I'm just saying that there's balance which we can all try to observe in an effort to get along, and we can try to phase out this "us or them" mentality.
Plus, we used to be more careful about spoilering our images... I think there's some little things we can do to improve the quality of our discussions, without alienating anyone who wouldn't be far happier on an actual imageboard. We can try harder not to derail dedicated threads and avoid duplication, and get better about sending PMs to people who are doing unchill things. Really, I don't think we've gone too far down the tubes. There's a number of easy fixes available.
I still like this forum far better than any other I've ever been to, but I think there's a few steps we can take to make this place even more pleasant for everyone.
Thanks, Vector.
This is exactly what I think the discussion should be on. Identifying possible errs that people make, including his or her own, and suggestions to rectify them.
I have not heard much from the IRC and others that are disillusioned with the site, which is really what I feel the focus should be on: Why exactly do you feel the way you do about the forums and are there any steps you can suggest such that the forums do not seem so unwelcome to you?
The closest thing since keeping this discussion up seems to be this:
While you may not be relatively new, there are still a fair few people around (primarily on IRC, as mentioned previously), who joined far earlier (2007 seems to be a large step-up from previous years in terms of numbers of users). It's not a matter of being "new" or "not new" as much as it's a matter of a "generation gap" of sorts. Most people who joined a year ago appear as part of the issue to those who joined in previous years, as much as those who joined in those years appear as symptoms of a decline to those in further years, etc..
From what I've seen here and elsewhere, the likelyhood/magnitude of this increases exponentially as places get larger, if only because there are an everlarger number of posts made that simply involve people complaining.
This is probably the exact reason things appear so bad to certain people: The forums today are not what they appeared to be in years past.
The attitude portrayed is horribly defeatist, at least to me. "There seems to be no hope to fix the situation, because we just feel like we don't belong, and we never will due to the ever-evolving community."
What about the forums of today are core-reasons that you so dislike them? Evolution creates new characteristics, and surely one or some of them must be the real reason and not evolution itself.
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