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Author Topic: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?  (Read 27590 times)

Earthquake Damage

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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #180 on: February 01, 2011, 09:10:32 pm »

Has anyone suggested defeating the big bad AI with the power of friendship or rock yet?  Or perhaps a dance-off?  It works in movies...
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #181 on: February 02, 2011, 02:12:01 am »

Friendship is as powerful as cardboard. A dance-off would allow the digital AI to do anything. It's moves would not be constrained by the laws of physics.
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #182 on: February 02, 2011, 03:50:21 am »

Yeah, but a human could win on style...

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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #183 on: February 02, 2011, 04:41:21 am »

An AI would have access to video footage of every dancer since the beginning of the internet. We would be dance-fucked.
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #184 on: February 02, 2011, 05:25:00 am »

Anyway, the point here is that you cannot defeat a singularity-level AI.

I'm okay with the AI winning, really. Just present it with a bit of a challenge to make sure that it's actually competent. Some global thermonuclear war, a few time-traveling robots, that sort of thing. If it can't wipe out humanity, it doesn't really deserve the planet.
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #185 on: February 02, 2011, 05:27:35 am »

I don't really see a singularity AI taking over, personally.
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #186 on: February 02, 2011, 06:14:28 am »

Give the AI a relentless desire to conquer, then cripple its ability to create automated war machines and prove the existence of aliens. The AI would be forced to use humans as its army.
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #187 on: February 02, 2011, 06:15:36 am »

Give the AI a relentless desire to conquer, then cripple its ability to create automated war machines and prove the existence of aliens. The AI would be forced to use humans as its army.
Or alllie with said aliens.

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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #188 on: February 02, 2011, 06:18:56 am »

Nah, the AI would eventually outsmart them. You have to make it need you. Make it completely immobile and reliant on humanity for power/maintenance.
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #189 on: February 02, 2011, 07:05:55 am »

Unplug the power cable.
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #190 on: February 02, 2011, 07:09:10 am »

Heh.
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #191 on: February 02, 2011, 12:51:41 pm »

I suppose for one of these to emerge you need a society very dependant on computers.  I don't think we're really at that stage yet.  A super intelligent AI could probably do a fair bit of damage, but the saga would end when we cut all its power sources.
Unplug the power cable.
Heh, hope these are joking, you would need to unplug every single computer, cell phone, laptop, and portions of industry (eg. all nuclear power plants use at least some computers), at the same time as well as turn off all electricity the world over to stop him piggybacking on something. And this would only work if the AI doesn't have access to a backup generator or something (which it would). Perhaps the most important thing would be that you wouldn't even be able to get all of humanity to act together even if they all DID believe in the AI.
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #192 on: February 02, 2011, 01:48:14 pm »

We don't have orbital death lasers yet, so why not just go off the grid in New Guinea or something?
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #193 on: February 02, 2011, 01:51:05 pm »

We don't have orbital death lasers yet, so why not just go off the grid in New Guinea or something?
It would get around to inventing those eventually.
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Re: How to Defeat a Singularity-Level AI?
« Reply #194 on: February 02, 2011, 02:04:35 pm »

Development in one of the AI's blind spots a weapon that alters the Earth's magnetic field in coincidence with a solar flare. The radiation shuts down nearly all electronics, and few humans with cybernetics survived.
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