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Author Topic: The sad song of the army.  (Read 2257 times)

Urist McScoopbeard

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The sad song of the army.
« on: December 28, 2010, 08:36:20 pm »

ok so wtf? training's not a job? killing innocent creatures is NOT A JOB!?!?!

i need some advice here my military dwarves, whether it be training or killing, seem to think they're idling. By now a few have gotten pretty low on the happy-scale and i jsut want to know what i can do to keep their spirits soaring (bad pun, if you like that)
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Ivan Issaccs

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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 09:07:07 pm »

Does it say enraged by long patrol duty? Sparring and killing enemys will give happy thoughts but eventually they will get pissed about being deployed for years on end.
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I always enjoy getting those immigrants that are like "I can make soap and potash and lye and cheese and-" then I cut them off with a "Hope you like bricks!" as I turn them into a mason.

Urist McScoopbeard

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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 09:11:01 pm »

no, usually my dwarves are training in their barracks and they just seem to lose happiness while sparring watchin demos or indiv. combat drilling.
if i have to put squads out on patrol i usually alternate them so thata not a problem.

do you think that if i put statues and stuff in the barracks it would cheer them up?
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Ivan Issaccs

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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2010, 09:12:15 pm »

Read their thoughts and it will tell you exactly whats making them unhappy.
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Urist McScoopbeard

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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2010, 09:15:06 pm »

ok, but i think it's from having no job, atleast thats what dwarf therapist is saying
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Urist McScoopbeard

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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2010, 09:18:30 pm »

hmmpf, well apparently flies, the rain, and the fact that i've drafted them have brought them down to 75-95 dftherapist happiness

my cats are workin' full time, their barracks is underground, and can't do anything 'bout te draft so i guess i'll get me some statues
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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2010, 09:25:52 pm »

I usually make my military dorfs pump operators for the down time in between lightly tapping each other.  It takes a while, but they become legendary pumpdorfs; the course to which as I understand, still makes them stronger in the current version.
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Urist McScoopbeard

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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 09:35:10 pm »

hm, ok ty for the suggestion but this being a new fort i've nothing to pump atm

also after giving it a few minutes, improving my dining hall, clearing some flies, and sparring they seem to be cheering up so ty for now
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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2010, 09:38:42 pm »

You can build pumps without having anything to pump.  [q] and then [Enter] once over the pump allows you to specify it to be pumped manually.  Think of it as a Dwarven treadmill.
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Urist McScoopbeard

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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2010, 09:39:55 pm »

That my good sir is a (F)awesome idea
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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2010, 09:41:15 pm »

You don't actually need to pump anything and I do recommend this for the stats boost.
Having a room full of skrew pumps pushing air is the Dwarven military response to human weight lifting and elven crying.
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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2010, 09:42:15 pm »

what I end up doing is building them a big barracks, engraving it and then filling it with tons of expensive furniture
after that, I can set them active constantly and I won't get more than a grovel out of them
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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2010, 09:50:45 pm »

You can build pumps without having anything to pump.  [q] and then [Enter] once over the pump allows you to specify it to be pumped manually.  Think of it as a Dwarven treadmill.

Reminds me of a scene in the Conan movie, where Conan is a slave turning a giant turnstyle to build up strength.
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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2010, 10:12:00 pm »

It would be interesting to know; are the dwarves actively training, or are they performing 'individual training'?
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Re: The sad song of the army.
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2010, 10:20:47 pm »

Also, "complaining about the draft," is in the military sense, not the wind sense. If you put a dwarf with low combat skills into a squad, they'll complain.
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