In the future, could you please use some spaces? It makes answering things a lot easier, since I can break things up.
So, you're really showing us how it's done here with the first sentence. I mean, with that sentence alone, I felt like you were a powerhouse to be dealt with. And the way you support that premise is simply astounding. I almost sucked a lemon right there.
I mean, you showed up and answered my question, leaving to go show us how it's done. And by this, I mean you showed up and answered my question like crap, then booked it on out of here in order to lurk until I told you to re-answer it.
Sure, you asked everyone how they would play as town and you asked me and Jokerman-EXE how would we play as scum. Either all your questioning targets were random, or you suspected me from the start and nothing I could say would change your decision. If I posted a detailed answer, you would execute me because that is a scum plan. I answered otherwise, and you tried to nail me for answering by stating boring facts. I have no doubt that you will execute me since I can't adequately defend myself, this being day one, but you'll be wrong.
I don't see how I could have: 1) gotten away with executing you for telling the truth, or 2) known you were going to lie when I said what would you do as scum. Are you really going to try that on me?
So, my life or death depends on how the scum will act?
No. It depends on how you act. You've basically admitted that there was no point in answering my question because I would claim it's a scum plan and lynch you. Not only is that one of the dumbest things I've ever heard (it's really stupid), it's also a pathetic attempt to not answer the question. If you knew anything about this game - or even Mafia in general - you would realize that the point is to stop scum before they stop you. I'm asking you to think like scum, so that you can stop them. That isn't scummy. So, here's a nice lesson for you:
The scum would attempt to lynch power players while they're King using some rather unique logic. By eliminating them, they can claim to have made the tough choice, both ridding themselves of the player and using an emotional appeal to spare them. That would definitely work in most cases. Now, when it comes to killing at Night, they should kill the medium players. Not only does this make lynching those stronger players easier to do (As people will be more suspicious of them), it makes any Doctor protection stopping the kill less likely. However, while they're not King, they should focus on someone else while the King is attacking someone. This makes them look a lot more active than simply going after the same person.
See, that's a real answer. That's what I was looking for. It's not a trick question, you idiot. It's an incite into your line of thinking. If you had said something like, "I think scum will lurk and then kill people at Night, dur dur dur," then I think that wouldn't answer the whole question and that you are hiding something. However, your refusal to answer at all makes you look like you're hiding EVERYTHING.
But, I enjoy the attempt to dissuade me through emotional appeal. You know, instead of logic. That earns you double points.
Where did you see emotional appeal in my response? I just saw that however I answered your question you would deem me as scum, so I didn't try to struggle, since that would be pointless anyway.
I'm sorry, Madam Chloe, I forgot I was talking to you. You're an idiot. Your emotional appeal is this: "I have no doubt you will lynch me for my inadequate answers." You're simply stating sentences that are supposed to invoke sympathy for you (which is no doubt working its magic on everyone else who could give a crap), such as "no adequate defense, senseless lynching, etc., etc." For someone that seems to be not wanting to die, you sure give some really crappy reasons why I shouldn't kill you.
Switch positions with me, and pretend I said everything you just said. Would you want to lynch me?
I was gonna answer this sooner, but I've been busy.
But, you've really proven your point by doing absolutely nothing. I certainly am looking for a reason to execute you now. You answer was crap and you know it. Your defense for that is I'm looking for a reason to type out an execution order on you? Nice.
I have been busy, and I don't have any clear suspicions, so I wanted to evaluate situation a bit before making my questions. If you think that is lurking, do as you wish.
Now seriously, how do you think I can answer the question about what I will do without any specific circumstances?
No clear suspects, but plenty of time to respond. Not nearly enough time for you? I do think that's lurking. You don't deny it. Not implicitly, anyhow. So, maybe you can stop pretending and start participating.
Did you even read my answer? I can't start hunting until I know whom I want to question and what about. You keeping all attention focused on me, which doesn't help it.
Right, and you can't find those out without playing the game. Maybe you're just waiting for someone to drop into your lap. I'm going to keep
MY attention on you. It's your JOB to make sure that I don't lynch you, or that if I do, something came out of it.
But, if you want to cry and whine like a schoolgirl, how about you just stop playing now. This might not be your game if you don't want to fight to save your own life.
So, now, why shouldn't I lynch you? What do you have to contribute to our game? Do you plan to lurk a whole ton instead? Do you feel my questions aren't helping me determine who's scum?
Because basing a lynch solely on my inability to answer questions with no adequate answer and on my absence is senseless? I'll ask questions as I have them. Right now there's nothing to base suspicions off. No, I don't plan to lurk. No, I don't feel so, but I think you should be more consistent at asking them.
So... you can ask questions as you have them, but I can only ask questions that make sense? You have no suspicions at all? I'd say killing you would make a whole lot of sense.
This is day one, and all that has been said is how people would react to some specific situation. I can't imagine how that helps.
How about I won't kill you if you can find someone scummier. Sound like a deal?
...and then you'll kill me anyway because my proof is insufficient.
If that is indeed your proof, then yes I will. Your death will be entirely in vain if you do nothing.
He is saying 'Fine lynch me, but you'll regret it!' When I tried that it was seen as a scumtell, so if you think it is sufficient lynch him. If not, wait for more questions.
When I don't have any visible way of defending myself? I just accepted the futility of resistance.
You DO HAVE WAYS OF DEFENDING YOURSELF! YOU JUST REFUSE TO UTILIZE THEM!
Provide a detailed reason why you should not be lynched. Do not be afraid to go on ad nauseum.
Because I'm a townie and executing me because I wasn't actively hunting (ignoring the WIFOM of it) for the whole half of first day instead of seeking other targets is not a particularly good idea?
No, not because you weren't hunting. That wasn't my concern. My concern was that you simply didn't want to answer the question. And when I pushed on it, you said you would SOUND SCUMMY, so you didn't want to do it. Not only is that false, if you're really Town, it shouldn't be your main concern. You're trying to lynch scum as Town. Has that sunk in yet? Or are you still in need of some after-school training sessions? If you look a little scummy (or even incredibly scummy), but you get the scum lynched, you've won. you even win if you're dead! Wow! Amazing!
Dariush, how come you believe, that you could get lynched for such mundane reasons?
Because I've been told that I'm 90% on the way to execution?
Pretty much. Each of your answers just steps you closer to those gallows. It's like you wish to die.
Well, if the things are going this way, I'll start asking despite how weak my questions may seem:
Ottofar, why did you claim Kingmaker so easily without first checking for the presence of doctors and thus possibility of you surviving the night?
... Because who cares? If he dies, someone else becomes Kingmaker. Making Doctors claim is substantially worse, as they would be the targets for kills. I also told him to claim. That means I won't lynch a known Town.
Since his claim has been the only landmark to orient from,
Everyone:
What would be your reaction if Ottofar isn't killed during the night? Would that change your view of his scumminess?
Same question if someone else claims to have protected him.
What can you make out of Ottofar's laconism and straightforwardness about his Kingmakerness? Did his immediate giving up raised or lowered your suspicion of him?
Now, general ones:
What will happen if someone you previously thought as scum becomes king? Your reaction to (supposed) Kingmaker?
How would you determine if current king is scum?
What will you do if the current king suits your suspicions?
Same question if you are elected king next day. Will you execute him without asking any further questions, thus risking the execution the following day?
What will be your reaction if the king executes someone without any questions?
If you become Kingmaker, will you choose someone you chose from the start or will you act upon current circumstances? If latter, on which?
As for me, I think Ottofar's immediate claim is more a scummy move than not so that it can be used later if he is accused.
1. Ottofar is Town. That much is known. That's right. Known. If the scum wish to claim Kingmaker, they will lose. That's that.
2. If someone claims to have protected him, that person is likely the Doctor. There's a very small chance that the scum simply noned, but I don't see that as likely.
3. Ottofar is Town. His immediate claim is something a Kingmaker would do. Don't believe me? Claim Kingmaker and find out.
4. ...Is that a serious question?
5. I would assume the current King is scum if there is either incredibly bad reasoning for lynching someone or having others do a majority of the guesswork for the King. The King should listen to the town, but taking a majority of evidence from someone else is almost always bad. Also, if someone lynches Town, you should probably at least suspect the previous King.
6. Don't know what that question even means.
7. You shouldn't quicklynch. Unless it's for a good reason. That doesn't seem like one.
8. My reaction will be of scum having won.
9. ...Choosing someone you feel is Town is
usually the way to go.
Now, any other questions you wish to ask?