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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 06:40:43 pm »

I guess I'd add to the above list: Don't assume the people that agree to give you a ride are safe, nice people. I'm just a suspicious person by nature, but hitchhikers and transients are prime targets for crime because a) no one generally knows where they are or where they've been and b) they're vulnerable because they're alone, tired and willing to take help when it's offered.

Just be safe, and carry whatever weapon British law will legally allow you to carry. Even a taped up roll of good ol' American quarters is better than nothing.
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2011, 05:18:07 am »


Just be safe, and carry whatever weapon British law will legally allow you to carry. Even a taped up roll of good ol' American quarters is better than nothing.

We don't carry weapons in this country. And your US money can't hurt us!  ;)  Also the OP is from Germany. Euros may sting a little bit. . .
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2011, 08:14:49 am »

Mostly in my country we hitchiking in a truck.It fairly safe because Truck driver is an reliable man,because they work in their company and they won't stop in somewhere else except their destination.(INDONESIAN)
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2011, 10:46:35 am »

No, just walk!

(I live in Canada, I conceive England as having everything right beside all the other stuff, you're so small...)
You're emptier than Russia.

I don't think you're likely to get picked up by anyone with a car and you may have issues getting directions if that's necessary due to all the varying accents. You could go from village to village until you need to travel a long distance. You could then have a 3 day hike  8).
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2011, 01:10:57 pm »

I guess I'd add to the above list: Don't assume the people that agree to give you a ride are safe, nice people. I'm just a suspicious person by nature, but hitchhikers and transients are prime targets for crime because a) no one generally knows where they are or where they've been and b) they're vulnerable because they're alone, tired and willing to take help when it's offered.

Just be safe, and carry whatever weapon British law will legally allow you to carry. Even a taped up roll of good ol' American quarters is better than nothing.

i wouldnt bother with a weapon, but if your really paranoid, take a heavy maglite, you can use it as a club if really necessary and its a good light, and it may make you feel more comfortable. Certain weapons are legal in the UK, but the police can arrest you for carrying around a screw driver if they think it is intended as a weapon. I knew someone who once got busted going to fencing with his fencing foil. Anyone who knows anything about swords will know that it would be easier to bite someone to death than kill then with a foil, but the police viewed it as a dangerous weapon.
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 07:08:08 am »

Wow, I can actually give decent advice on this one.

To start off, I'm a 19 (nearly 20) year old scruffy looking metalhead/hippy type type person.  I've spent most of my life moving back and forth between England and Wales and refuse to buy a vehicle, so I've hitchhiked varying distances since I turned 14.  It is still possible to get around that way, although it's only really common in Ireland these days.

The greatest piece of advice I can give you is to bring one other person with you.  Alone you're in a lot more danger, (and I have had one particularly terrifying moment while hitchhiking alone) but in a group you could be perceived as a potential threat, thus decreasing the amount of people willing to pick you up.  You'll get bonus points if you're with a (preferably cute) girl who is close to your age, as couples generally seem more approachable, and you'll get peoples wives nagging them to help out that lovely looking couple.

Location is also important.  Try and avoid the more urban areas if possible.  People are generally in more of a rush and are less likely to even notice your presence.  You'd also be missing out on the prettiest areas of Britain, such as (IMO) Pembrokeshire and the Gower in Wales, Yorkshire and the West Midlands in England, the Lake District in Scotland, and pretty much any part of (preferably Southern) Ireland especially County Cork.

Image-wise, you can go either way.  If you're naturally a smart sort of person, accentuate it.  The same applies if you tend more towards scruffiness.  Some people will only pick you up if you look smart and respectable, whereas the old hippies (particularly numerous in Ireland and West Wales) will pick up literally any scruffy looking fellow who reminds them of when they used to hitch hike.  For maximised chances, I'd recommend you go slightly one way and your companion the other.

Do not carry any form of weapon on you.  Hitch hikers tend to get searched fairly often, and the British cops do not take kindly to offencive weapons.  Make sure your mobile will function in Britain, and text someone in the same country as you the Licence Plate of any vehicle BEFORE you get inside it.  If you don't know anyone in Britain, you're more than welcome to use me for this.  Oh aye, don't trust the Bikers.  Be polite, but never ever accept a lift from one.

Provisions wise, always assume you're not going to make it to a hotel or shop that night.  Stock up on food, clean your clothes and withdraw money whenever possible.  I'd also recommend you bring a decent little tent, pillow, sleeping bag and camping mat at the very least.  A kettle will also serve you well.

You should also try to hit up a festival if you're into music at all.  I head to as many as I can physically afford, so if you want to tell me what music you prefer and the kind of vibe you're after, I could probably recommend you a few.

Finally, if you happen to partake of the herb, you're in for a bit of an advantage.  Don't carry your own in any quantity whatsoever, if at all, and be sure it's well hidden if you do.  Truckers in particular can be prone to picking someone up on the condition they roll a few up for them, out of the truckers own stash.  I doubt I need to tell anyone this, but even if you do fit the bill, do not bring it up first!

Good luck :)
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 04:25:52 pm »

A camp mat can easily be rolled up and carried quite easily.  Even a really thin one will make a world of difference with the slight lift from the floor of a tent.

And as for camping anywhere, who's going to find you?
In all seriousness, the only real trouble you may get is an annoyed farmer waking you up in the morning :)

And yeah, frop me a pm when you know what sort of time you're planning the trip for and I'll send you my mobile number and a list oof any relevant festies.
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2011, 11:08:42 am »

a weapon noone suspects: deodorant. the spray is very painfull when applied on eyes. Not as good as pepper spray, but it may give you the edge you need


also, check this site, maybe there are people who may pick you up, bring you a bit, or offer you a room near your chosen path. Its always good to know some alternatives http://www.couchsurfing.org/
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2011, 10:28:20 pm »

I can't say for sure as I've never used one of them, but it looks like it should do the job.  I normally go for old fashioned ridge tents myself, those things are sturdy as hell, if a little smaller.  Avoid pop up tents like the plague.  I've been trying to put down the one I bought since August 31  :o
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2011, 07:30:57 am »

There are petrol stations on the motorways, at every motorway service station. There aren't that many of them though. They are the only place you can hitch on motorways (it's illegal for cars to stop otherwise) but expect a long wait!

Wherer are you planning to visit? Coming to the South East, Kent?
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2011, 08:58:48 am »

There's one magic sign that might help you with hitch-hiking, especially up and down the motorway network.  A "garage plate"[1]  plate is often seen with people on the approach to motorway sliproads.  I think this conveys some sort of image of "official vehicle-less-ness" and means that these people are more likely to be helped out by people who might also work in similar areas of the vehicle couriering industry.

However, I don't know how much this would help you.  The places you see these people necessitate the picker-upperers stopping on the sliproads down the motorway (I'm certain this is illegal, although hardly uncommon to see) for the hitcher to run down to do their negotiation (assuming they haven't already informed the driver with the cardboard sign saying "Edinburgh", or whatever).  You may also have to get a decent back-story to justify this tactic, and the number-plate isn't going to be easy to get in the first place.  However, I do believe this method has been used successfully by someone of my loose acquaintance.


Similarly, walking with a petrol can works wonders (on a busy road, maybe only the hundredth car to pass by stopped, but that was within a couple of minutes of getting onto it, and others may have stopped if not so busy), except that obviously it'd normally only be an offer of a lift to the nearest petrol station or (if they don't mind the inevitable smell of petrol) back to your vehicle from that, so probably would upset someone if you asked for long-distance travel on that basis!


All in all, I must admit that I have never picked up a hitch-hiker.  Perhaps the closest is that of offering a lift to someone I know who happens to be walking along the road I'm driving, as it is in the reverse.  I believe I'm fairly representative of the British public (polite, and all that, at least outside of the inner-city environment and in among the masses, but when in ones own car tends not to let strangers into it on whims) but there's an awful lot of us on the roads and there are going to be outliers (a few very accommodating ones, plus very a very small number of scary ones, both of whom might be eager to stop, but for different reasons).  But then I see very few HHs (maybe a self-fulfilling truth, if there aren't enough to be seen doing it, so those that are left don't see many car drivers that help.


For travelling around the UK, I'm really unsure as to what method of travel would work well.
I last used a train a couple of months back: Return journey cost a little bit more than the round-trip of petrol would have, a single-way journey would have cost more than the return-ticket!  And then there's the inconvenience of having to find a handy station for each point on your journey, which is probably Ok if limiting to major centres of population, for the most part (thank you, Dr Beeching...) but apart from certain scenic areas visible from the lines themselves generally misses out most of the interesting landscapes.  Plus often waiting times, inconvenience, expensive and/or inedible food, blah-de-blah.
Bicycle travel is better than it has been, with National Cycle Network routes set up all over the place (a lot on disused train-track beds... so... Thank you Dr Beeching!?!), although as a long-time cyclist I can tell you that UK motorists aren't anywhere near as friendly towards two-wheeled people (both motored and un-motored, but for different reasons) as their continental brethren.  Plus we have hills (especially where it is most interesting to be) and wind-swept flat-lands (especially where you're likely to want to ride into the wind!)  Nothing like the Alpine foothills or Netherlands reclaimed plains, respectively, but still significant barriers to the tourist who isn't used to it all.  (And even one who is.)
There are a number of Long Distance Paths which are good for people who are more experienced at (non-hitch) hiking.  But not for the novice, and you really need to plan your stops if you aren't confident/blasé about good weather and the possibility of camping out (noting that you really don't get automatic right to camp out on common land in England, like you do in Scotland).
Coach-travel, good for between major destinations, can usually be augmented with busses for within a given locality.  But can be a crap-shoot.

On the whole, though, for true nation-wide travel, Car is King, and preferably your own.  And probably cheaper in the long-term (past the initial investment in buying/hiring and associated insurance), despite the high fuel costs.  And none of the above (excepting cycling/either type hiking, once you've got the equipment) is free.  Right now I have difficulty imagining I could be a rep for the English Tourist Board (or indeed Welsh/Scottish/N.Irish ones), however.  There are great bits of country (far too many to see everything of, in a short trip, as I'm sure you can say the same of your own land) but I'd have great difficulty giving you definitive advice on how to see it all.


Finally, a quick tale about someone I know of who did hitch-hike.  A 'furriner', he came into the UK by plane to one of the London airports, joined the YHA (Youth Hostel Association) and then hitched up to Edinburgh.  Opened the handbook and found no Hostels in Scotland except one at the north end of the Pennine Way.  Hitch-hiked back there (where we were, coincidentally, and hence how we know of him) and grumbled about it...  He didn;'t realise that the YHA was England and Wales only, and that there were plenty of hostels in Scotland if he got himself an S[cotish]YHA handbook. :)


I don't think any of what I just said helped, but FYI, anyway.

[1] A pressed-metal car number-plate with white background, red letters and border, often a rubber 'hanging strap'.  Also an archaic sequence of   registration letters.  But sometimes I've seen a regular one (black on white/yellow) used for similar purpose...  They might well have been pinched off actual cars.
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Re: Hitchhiking through England?
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2011, 11:52:36 am »

Bloody hell, I was about to run a search to try and find this thread myself!

http://www.motorwayservices.info/map we do have them :)

Where about in England to you intend to travel?  I'm in Wales at present, but August is my travel around partying month, so there's a good chance our paths could cross at some point.

I'd also highly recommend you head down to Beautiful Days if your budget can stretch to it (£110 + £7 booking fee) as it's the friendliest festival I have ever had the privilege of attending.
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