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[Aklyon]

what kind of metal?

[Willfor]

I will answer that when you can answer the same question with "mainstream" substituted for "metal".

Unspecific hatred is fun isn't it?

[Aklyon]

Well I really only like one kind of metal and wanted to see if you guessed it.
mainstream pop sucks,though.

[scriver]

What kind of mainstream pop?

[Askot Bokbondeler]

70 percent of all music is terrible, 10 percent is passable, 4 percent is good and 1 percent is exceptional, the rest i left out as a margin of error cuz i pulled this numbers out of my ass. these percentages are unequally distributed among all the musical genres.
most mainstream music is unoriginal, but most most mainstream artists were competent enough at making unoriginal music to gain some success, non mainstream music is also mostly composed of unoriginal artists, but most wont be competent enough to become mainstream. there are exceptions, they are the exception.

note that success and mainstream are relative adjectives, there are mainstream bands in black metal, although black metal isn't a mainstream genre, metalcore is a relatively mainstream genre, but easilly alternative when compared to r&b, and pop isn't nearly as mainstream as people seem to think. the numbers i stated above can be applied to any level of mainstreamness and successness, from moscow's death salsa metal scene to the whole music industry, note tough that the higher the scale of the scene in question, the more interest external entities have in manipulating the trends.

[Aklyon]

What kind of mainstream pop?

idk

and if we're going to use percentages now, then I'm pulling out Sturgeon's Law.

[scriver]

idk

and if we're going to use percentages now, then I'm pulling out Sturgeon's Law.

...Most sturgeons swim in the main stream?

[Diablous]

idk

and if we're going to use percentages now, then I'm pulling out Sturgeon's Law.

...Most sturgeons swim in the main stream?

90% of everrthing is crap?

[dwarfguy2]

90% of the sturgeons' main stream is full of crap?

[Keita]

What Metal Militia passes as 'Main Stream':

A song, artists or anything that is popular to the point of pandemic. This means that a lot of people (more than 50% of people) that I'm in contact with (talk to on a regular basis) know or like said 'thing.

That is what I consider 'Main Stream', that is my personal opinion and JB falls into this catagory.

[SalmonGod]

what's with metalheads thinking they're some sort of intellectual elite? most metal is as cheap as mainstream music, but louder. i listen to some metal, but the whole *uh, i'm cooler cuz i listen to noisy music, metal4eva \m/!!* is ridiculous

that is not to say bieber's music isn't terrible, but to extend it to all that is mainstream is unfair.

I don't hate anything just because it's mainstream.

I have to say, though, that metal, at least the metal I listen to, tends to tackle intellectual subject matter, do lots of experimentation, and try to evoke an emotional response from the listener beyond "hey this is catchy I think I can dance to it."

There's definitely some cheap, over-commercialized metal out there... but far less than any other genre.  Though I think that may be different over in Europe where it seems like metal still enjoys some popularity.  The genre is almost completely forgotten here in the U.S.

[Keita]

Which is odd, a lot of awesome metal bands that are like you have explained, started in america then came over to europe to gig.

[Mindmaker]

I have to say, though, that metal, at least the metal I listen to, tends to tackle intellectual subject matter, do lots of experimentation, and try to evoke an emotional response from the listener beyond "hey this is catchy I think I can dance to it."

That's so true.
The main reason why the greater part of the bands I listen to, is in the metal genere.

Lyrics are a very important part of music to me.
Having a song consisting largely of a chorus, however catchy it might be, just doesn't do.

[breadbocks]

Having a song consisting largely of a chorus, however catchy it might be, just doesn't do.

What about Around the World? =3

[Zaerosz]

Jumping on the rails of music discussion, I've mainly stopped listening to Western music due to the (self-identified) fact that almost all of the popular modern music I ever hear about nowadays falls into at least one of several categories:

• It's shallow/meaningless/doesn't 'come from the heart' (e.g. Justin Bieber)
• It's about sex, drugs and/or violence (e.g. most of rap)
• It's about romance in one of several ways:
  
  • Having your lover leave you and wanting him/her back
  • As above, but RAEGing at said lover instead of wanting him/her back
  • Finding true love
  [li]It's absolutely incomprehensible (e.g. Dubstep)

At least with the music I listen to either I can make up my own meaning for it if I can't understand it or it just sounds good and I don't need to worry about any negative meanings I can't understand since nobody I know can understand them either.