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[G-Flex]

avocados

Guacamole is extremely easy to make (seriously, you just squash some avocado up and throw whatever else you feel like in there) and goddamn delicious. It's rich in calories without being high in saturated fats, and has a decent proportion of vitamins/minerals and fiber. This makes it a pretty great substitute for other dips, and is good with tortilla chips.

Here's a site you should probably bookmark: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/1843/2 (link goes to avocados, just as an example). There's probably more information there than you'd even know what to do with, and on most foods you could think of.

Oh, avocado also has a lot of potassium, which reminds me: If you're exercising, watch your electrolytes. Make sure you get enough potassium, calcium, and magnesium in particular.

[inteuniso]

Also, eat Peanut Butter. Not the Jiffy kind, the ones with the layer of liquid on top. That tells you it's unsaturated fat, because it's a liquid at room temperature.
liquid at room temperature=good fat.
solid at room temperature=bad fat, don't eat too much of it.

[Nikov]

DJ, I don't know who told you Americans don't eat organ meats. Fried chicken gizzards are at my local gas station.

Consider blocks of cheese and summer sausage. But I wouldn't go too far overboard. You could probably launch into five thousand calories. Just eat a lot of non-lean meat like ground hamburger fried in its own delicious fatty goodness and don't worry about good fats and bad fats, just overdoing it to the point of your chest exploding.

Rice is also a dirt cheap filler, although not too calorie intensive. Add butter.

[G-Flex]

don't worry about good fats and bad fats, just overdoing it to the point of your chest exploding.

The probable outcome of this is your chest exploding. This would probably not be a good idea.

DJ, I don't know who told you Americans don't eat organ meats. Fried chicken gizzards are at my local gas station.

Depends on what area of the US you live in. I live in New England, for instance, where I hardly ever see anything like that.

[DJ]

Pork is a fairly difficult to digest meat, and cured/salted pork products are full of far, far more sodium than you need, and nitrites/nitrates and the like. Pork fat/lard is also by far not the best source of fat you can get if you're health/fitness conscious. Granted, I'm not sure how it compares to butter.

Pork is digested slowly, but I wouldn't say it's difficult to digest. I've never had indigestion from pork, and I get it all the time from some vegetables. The fact that it releases it's energy slowly is a good thing IMO, you need that kind of food for hard physical labour.

Sodium and nitrites, well, it all depends on the preparation. When I prepare pork for smoking, I just put it in water with garlic and enough salt to draw out the moisture from the meat, but the final product is about as salty as butter. I guess supermarket stuff would be worse, especially since it's mostly boiled bacon rather than smoke dried bacon in USA (or so I've heard).

As for healthiness of lard, AFAIK it's making a resurgence these days precisely because it's a lot better for you than vegetable oil.

[G-Flex]

Sodium and nitrites, well, it all depends on the preparation. When I prepare pork for smoking, I just put it in water with garlic and enough salt to draw out the moisture from the meat, but the final product is about as salty as butter. I guess supermarket stuff would be worse, especially since it's mostly boiled bacon rather than smoke dried bacon in USA (or so I've heard).

Right, I meant the sort of ham/bacon/etc you'd find in a store. Cured things, not just smoked things.

As for healthiness of lard, AFAIK it's making a resurgence these days precisely because it's a lot better for you than vegetable oil.

First off, "vegetable oil" is meaninglessly vague. Secondly, I'll believe that when I see good evidence for it from reliable sources and not just someone making note of a popular trend. For the record, though, it does have less saturated fat than butter, although that's not a very exhaustive comparison. This isn't to say that lard isn't useful, but I doubt it's as healthy as the majority of vegetable oils.

[DJ]

I mean sunflower and rape oil. AFAIK those are chock-full of saturated fat. And lard is a lot more stable at high temperatures, so it simply has no competition when it comes to greasing pans.

[G-Flex]

I mean sunflower and rape oil. AFAIK those are chock-full of saturated fat.

They aren't. Rapeseed oil (canola oil specifically) is about 7% saturated fat, and sunflower oil is about 10% saturated fat. Lard is about 40% saturated fat, so at least four times as much as those. More specific qualities of lard fat depend on things like what the pigs actually ate.

As has been mentioned before, unsaturated fats tend to be liquid at room temperature, and saturated fats tend to be solid at room temperature.

And lard is a lot more stable at high temperatures, so it simply has no competition when it comes to greasing pans.

It definitely has culinary uses (very high smoke point, like you're saying), but it's not healthier than vegetable oils by any means, generally speaking.

[malimbar04]

First of all, fat is not the same thing as calories. They're also extremely filling.

If you want to get a lot of calories with less of a full feeling, you want to stick to carbohydrates and starches. Potatoes, bread, crackers pasta, and so forth.

If you're eating that much, I wouldn't worry about protein content. If you're not a vegetarian, you'll get so much excess it doesn't matter anyways. You'll probably get too much sugar as well, since it laces basically everything we eat without trying.

By the way, getting peanut butter that separates doesn't make it better peanut butter. If anything, it probably makes it worse peanut butter, as you can never mix the oil back in that well. The oil in standard peanut butter is also naturally unsaturated peanut oil, but simply doesn't separate out because of one of the ingredients they put in.

[de5me7]

if your running each morning, i recommend a big bowl of porridge mixed with some dried fruit or museli, with either honey, syrup or maple syrup (if your rich) liberally ladled on top. The porridge for slow release the syrup/honey for a sugar kick start.

[Vector]

... I'm just going to go over my usual intake as a person trying to lose a little weight, but mostly maintain under the circumstances of "brain eats everything."  I'll also note that I'm a vegetarian, I guess.


I get up between 6 and 8 most mornings when I'm at school.

Breakfast: some kind of fruity grainy nutty vegetably thing.  Usually I'll have a cup of tea, a banana, and one of the following--rice pudding, leftovers, a vat of pad thai, a bowl of nuts, or a fried egg with onions cooked in.  I'll also eat half a cucumber or something.  For those who care, I make the pad thai with two eggs per half-package of noodles, and a 3"x3"x5" block of cut up tofu, along with maybe half a cup of peanuts to sprinkle on top.

Second breakfast: Either the rest of first breakfast, in the case where I made something like an entire wok-ful of pad thai, or something similar.  Second breakfast and first breakfast are usually two different things from the same list.

Lunch: This is usually pretty late in the afternoon, when I've just remembered that I actually have to eat.  I'll have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich while I'm working on dinner.  More tea with a little milk and sugar.

Snack: An apple or a banana.  Probably another little handful of raw vegetables, like carrots or something.  Maybe half a head of lettuce.

First dinner: dinner.  Sometimes this will be half of a candied squash (just a squash gutted and smeared with a little olive oil, salt, and honey, then baked for a while) or something.  Maybe it will be a big bowl of squash curry steeped in coconut milk (which has stuff in it that keeps your arteries from hardening, by the way, despite the large amounts of fat).  Spaghetti.  In any case, something high on carbohydrates and probably also fat.

Second/accidental dinner: this happens when I get hungry again and realize that there's leftovers in the fridge.  I'll eat the other half of what might usually be a light dinner for three people, mostly by accident.

I usually go to bed a bit hungry between midnight and 1.


If I was adding more calories to this, I'd swap out all of the skim milk for whole milk and keep a bag of almonds or something on hand.  Seriously, I've eaten an entire 3,000-calorie bag of almonds in one evening (along with some other stuff) and didn't gain weight.  Another option is swapping out eggs or nuts for light meat in some places.

As far as vitamin supplements:

Fish oil pills (have to take these daily to keep my brain working and my personality stable)
Women's multivitamin (for iron, since anemia can be a real problem)
Emergen-C vitamin C packages (only when I'm coming down with a cold, as I basically don't eat oranges or tangerines anymore due to massive overeating in my youth.  I used to eat ten tangerines a day)


Hope this helps a bit?

[inteuniso]

On second thought, just make a slaughterhouse instead.

[Heron TSG]

Thanks, Vector, I'll have to try some of those sometime; they sounds pretty tasty.

Women's multivitamin (for iron, since anemia can be a real problem)
Emergen-C vitamin C packages (only when I'm coming down with a cold, as I basically don't eat oranges or

I actually might need to look into these. Running long distances lowers both your immune system and your iron count, which are both pretty bad.

[G-Flex]

The oil in standard peanut butter is also naturally unsaturated peanut oil, but simply doesn't separate out because of one of the ingredients they put in.

Do you know what that ingredient is, or at least one of them? Hydrogenated oils. So no, the fat isn't just the natural peanut oil.

[Neonivek]

The reason I keep saying stuff like this is a bad idea is because... well, it's a bad idea

It is just hard for me to think of really healthy foods that are also extremely high in calories.

However the Four big ones are
1) Nuts (Peanut butter sandwiches can have more cals then eating a steak!)
2) Meats (The problem with meat is it is expencive)
3) Wheat (Bagels... my god how are they sooo unhealthy?)
4) Dairy (mostly cheeses... Butter doesn't help and can add up... but your not going to get a lot of bang for your buck. Rule of thumb: If the Cheese is melted it is generally fattening)

While fruits can easily be another high-cal food... the kind of fat you get from the more fattening fruits are not very healthy for you (Such as Bananas... I love them but they are suprisingly not that good for you outside their uncommon nutriance).

Sugar is also very dependent Calorie wise. Unused sugar is extremely fattening but sugar that doesn't reach its inert state burns very fast. Some runners even taken to use Coke instead of energy drinks for fast energy.

Also yeah splitting up your meals into 6-8 parts is a great idea.

Drink wise... Energy Drinks and juices tend to have a lot of calories. It isn't tough to add quite a bit of calories from drinks. People trying to cut down have problems with it because your body doesn't recognise calories from liquids very easily. The problem with them normally is a high amount of sugar but I don't think that is soo much an issue with you.