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sogeking99

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Re: this noobs fortress, my pictures and questions
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2010, 09:22:10 am »

ah man just as i got 3 new migrants 1 of my dwarfs drowned...what the hell was he doing in the river? was he suicidal or what? 
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TheJackal

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« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2010, 09:36:43 am »

ah man just as i got 3 new migrants 1 of my dwarfs drowned...what the hell was he doing in the river? was he suicidal or what?

You remarked earlier that the water on your map had frozen, correct? Without any more information, I'll take a wild guess and say that the river was frozen when the migrants arrived. The drowned migrant was walking across the ice of the river when it thawed, dumping him in. Where he drowned.
I'm just guessing.

If that is the case, okay, good - but now you wonder how to stop it!

You have three options.

A) Restrict Traffic: Under the Designate Menu there is a Define Traffic areas options. There you can set tiles to favor(encourage) dwarves to walk over them, or discourage(disfavor). It does this by adding or subtracting values to the pathfinding equations. Using this tool, Restrict all the river tiles so that your dorfs won't walk on it when frozen(do the same for ponds and pools!). If cool stuff is on the other side they might have to get to later, (B)uild a Brid(g)e and use the Traffic Designation tool to un-restrict it.
http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Traffic

B) Use your dorfs to dig out stairs or ramps along the entire length of the river, both sides. If a dwarf falls in, hopefully they'll swim to the side and crawl out of the river before they die. You can put the ramps(or stairs) every few tiles if you don't feel like doing it the whole way.

C) Use both A&B, which might be the safest way to handle it.

D) Build a massive semi-automated cistern system underground that is fully self powered and controlled by levers, pressure plates, drawbridges, and the heart of an orphaned child. Add plenty of catwalks, observation platforms, and breakrooms. Drain the river at the source by tunneling up into its bed. No more surface river=no more drowning.
 
I hope this helps!
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sogeking99

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« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2010, 10:40:02 am »

thanks for the advice :) the river as unfrozen by this point strangely.
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TheJackal

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« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2010, 10:45:05 am »

In temperate zones the freezing and unfreezing can be pretty random sometimes! Just try what I posted -A and B are pretty easy to do!
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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2010, 11:54:12 am »

ok thanks i will to A for now.
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CapnUrist

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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2010, 12:20:42 pm »

It's not so much random as it is instant. I always restrict traffic over freezing rivers and build a bridge marked for high traffic. Only animals and traders walk across it then.
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2010, 12:59:54 pm »

now theres a wolf bothering me.
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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2010, 01:00:36 pm »

Sounds like it's time for some crossbows.
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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2010, 01:18:04 pm »

yeah i will start that, weird one of my dwarves are in a fey mood, he is content but i cant really find a reason in his thoughts.
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« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2010, 01:19:34 pm »

He should claim a workshop, if you have the kind he needs. Then, he should run around grabbing semi-random materials, and make something of great value! Just...make sure you have everything he needs.
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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2010, 01:24:32 pm »

ah cool, hope i have the right workshop.
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« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2010, 01:25:10 pm »

I usually just build one of everything off the bat.
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« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2010, 01:29:57 pm »

yeah i will do that then.

here is my fortress from afar showing a little bit of progression from my first screenshot :)

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notice the working floodgate at the top? progression!
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« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2010, 01:35:06 pm »

What's the fey dwarf's highest skill? Usually that's the workshop type he'll want. If it's not the highest, then the highest with a specific workshop type. Otherwise, it's either a mason or craftsdwarf workshop.

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« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2010, 01:36:32 pm »

Nice progress. Eventually you're going to harvest crops from the farm plots and put them in storage, while on the other end people are going to come to storage and carry food to the dining room. So a good place to lay down a food storage area is between the farm plots and the dining hall.
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