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[adwarf]

Toss my remaining Flares outside then Make sure none of the robots get in by spraying them with deadly fire. " If anyones hurt Pull them back in a far as possible then heal them. "

[Comp112]

((Thanks guys, I would rather not die. Least we could do is park the APC somewhere as a sort of block...))

[adwarf]

New Order
Toss the Flares outside right as they explode jump out of the bunker and unleash all hell.

[V-Norrec]

I need to come up with a better idea for all this combat stuff, everyone, even if it's a completely different system, please suggest something that might be simpler for dealing with the large number of enemies I'm going to have to roll for.  If I don't get some input, I'm probably going to end up having to redo the whole thing from scratch, which will take time.  A whole lot of time.

[Comp112]

Go talk to the guy doing Trapped. Doesn't his game use large numbers of units?

[Sheb]

Are your rolling for each units? You could consider 15 zergs as one single units doing 1D1500 damage instead of 15D100. Of course, it'd means much more extreme results, but it'd be faster.

[Phantom]

Cough.

Sorry, I have a cold.

[adwarf]

Roll the dice just for a unit type and all of those units of that type get that roll

[Phantom]

V-Norrec, want me to create a wiki page for this on the Bay 12 Games Lower Wiki?

[IronyOwl]

Finish robolings, heal marines.

Spoiler: Mechanics You Say? (click to show/hide)

I can think of several ways to simplify the combat system.

You could drop the d100s to d10s, with a corresponding reduction in bonuses (+7 vs +70, etc). This would make the system a lot less granular (there's no simple way to do the current system's +5 or +15, for instance), but means you have to track smaller numbers.

[(34+74+12)/3=40+15-25=30 damage] becomes [(3+7+1)/3=4+1-2=3 damage], for instance.

You could drop the three rolls part. This would make combat much, much swingier, of course, but cut the number of rolls by two thirds.

[(24+92+34)/3=50+25-45=30 damage] becomes [35+25-45=15 damage], for instance.

You could simply add the results of the dice rather than averaging them. This would require non-physical dice and/or retweaking the numbers, but remove the need for anything but basic arithmetic.

[(22+54+49)/3=42+30-25=47 damage] becomes [12+30+19=61+5-30=36 damage], for instance.


You could also make armor add directly to health rather than reduce damage, which I wouldn't particularly recommend but would also simplify things.

In that same general vein, but more standardizing than simplifying, I think, you could assign weapons and armor a rank rather than a value, and then compare the two for a damage bonus/penalty. For instance, let's assume standard marine equipment is Rank 3, zerglings are Rank 1. If two marines attack each other, you ignore weapon/armor values because they're assumed to be equal. If a marine with U-238 shells attacks a marine with no combat shield, there's probably a difference. If a marine attacks a zergling or vice versa, they're 2 apart, so the zergling has his damage reduced by 20, or divided by 2, or capped at 20, or something, while the marine has his damage multiplied, increased, lower-capped, etc.

[V-Norrec]

Hmmmm, I love the D10 solution, I'll have to work on the exact rules though, I don't want to gib people because I didn't think through the rules well enough.

Edit:  Sure, I can't be bothered to do a page myself, might want to mention it's down for a bit of rule reconstruction though.

[adwarf]

Poke Poke
Is it alive

Did everyone post

where is ta update

[Phantom]

Didn't you hear about the goddamn Hiatus on rule reconstruction?

[adwarf]

Oh I must have skipped that part or somin hmm ... sry off day

[V-Norrec]

I'm almost finished with the rule change on the plus side.