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[beorn080]

Maybe making Electrical Discharge have a fire pattern like Quills when activated, plus the spread to adjacent possibly spreading it out and hitting more.

It seems like it's potential power is massive, being effectively 24d4 at level 10, so for melee monster players it could be extraordinarily powerful. Hmm.

Edit: I just found an extraordinarily amazing item. One that has been mentioned recently and couldn't be figured out.

[Orb]

Electrical Discharge does more damage, can build up charges, has a 100% penetration, 100% hit rate, and can bounce off onto nearby targets. Light manipulation can't build up charges,, doesn't have 100% penetration, and does less damage. Its range is rather low also.

I'm not totally positive on on these stats, I haven't used Light manipulation as much as ED.

[Toaster]

Bug report:

If you have one round in a carbine and fire it, it still shoots three times.  I don't have one to test, but I assume the chaingun would act in the same way.

[FuzzyZergling]

Light manip does actually build up charges. The more charges you have, the brighter you shine and the more lasers you can fire.

[cerapa]

Light manipulation builds up charges, it can also crit and has a very good penetration value, which means it crits, a lot. Light manipulation also has utlity in its light generation, as well as it being hilarious to have your evil twin shoot at you, and have them bounce back at him. The range is enough imo. And its level is increased by ego meaning you dont have to spend mutation points.

[beorn080]

Light manip's range is about the same as freezing hands. I'm just saying that Light manip seems to give a lot more then electrical discharge for its three points vs ED's 4. 6 rapid fire shots of 2d4 penetration 10 attacks with range of 8 that doubles as a light source seems to be a bit more overall powerful then a single shot of 10d4 100% penetration at point blank range.

Edit:This has to be a bug due to its massive power. Spoilered for those who don't wish to learn of a massively game breaking item of immense proportions.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A desalination pellet can be used any number of times to produce any amount of pure water the player desires from salt water. Given the amounts of salt water lying around, it effectively means you can buy anything you want, however much of it you want, limited only by your patience and the number of waterskins you have previously picked up.

[vaaern]

just bought this game, but haven't played much. Do have a question, do you have to do the quests? or can you just run around freely?

[beorn080]

You can do whatever you want. Quests just provide some extra xp and occasionally some items.

[Niveras]

And advance along the plot, but I'm sure exploration is (more or less) limited only by danger.

[Mephansteras]

I think iron daggers have the wrong stats. They're 4p 1d6 damage. Same stats as a Steel Utility Knife, while Iron short swords are only 1d4 damage.

Also, bug: I'm wandering around in the caves below Jappa and there are snapjaws stuck in the walls.

[cerapa]

Im confused about quills. It says it shoots 10% of the quills, does that mean that in my current state, it would fire 100 3p 1d4 projectiles?

[unormal]

*Fix for some effects not getting correctly removed (i.e. not becoming unlost when expected)
*Desalination pellets are now correctly used up when applied
1.0.4123.27877

[beorn080]

Perhaps drop the price on the pellets then. Even with maximum ego boosts, they're like 100 drams of water for at most 64 dram return, often doing nothing. Unless there is a trick and you can apply the to bulk water.

Edit: I'm running the version before this last patch, and in leveling up to 40 and choosing random mutation, I got both Cold and Heat absorbtion as choices. Having never seen these before, I snagged heat. Immunity to heat is nice.

[Strange guy]

Another bug I forgot to mention- while not on the most up to date version (it was on the one that introduced stingers) my character appeared to be constantly burning when using the look command, but most definitely wasn't on fire (except when fighting troll fireslingers). It might have started when I first used kindle, but I'm not sure.

cerapa- Yes it would (assuming you have 1000 quills)

[beorn080]

Divided by 8 for the 8 squares it hits, possibly nine if it hits your own square too, not sure on that one. It is one of the best armors you can get in the game.