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[Urist is dead tome]

Christmas has become far too commercial. When December rolls around all I see is commercials dedicated solely to the gifts. You're opinion?

[tomas1297]

 YES! I hate those fuxxing commercials and those fuxxing Christmas songs so much...

[Urist is dead tome]

CHRISTmas is (Was.) celebrated as the birth of Jesus Christ. Why have we strayed so far?

[tomas1297]

 Capitalism. Gifts cost money.

[alway]

CHRISTmas is (Was.) celebrated as the birth of Jesus Christ. Why have we strayed so far?

Winter solstice was a pagan tradition. Why did Christmas stray so far?

[Sir Pseudonymous]

CHRISTmas is (Was.) celebrated as the birth of Jesus Christ. Why have we strayed so far?

It was a pagan festival related to the winter solstice, co-opted by christians on the grounds of "hey, everyone's already celebrating and shit, let's claim they're just doing it cause we say so!"


Also, fail troll is fail.

[Urist is dead tome]

But Christmas is a Christian holiday. It's in December as part of pagan customs. I ain't a troll I just want to hear you're opinions.

[Sinned]

CHRISTmas is (Was.) celebrated as the birth of Jesus Christ. Why have we strayed so far?

It was ....

Still is... Not everyone converted and went along with the new name and story tacked on to it

Many religions, traditions have something going on around the date in question. Depending on what side of the globe your stuck, some have to do with daylight

And yes, its pretty commercial. *shrug* We mostly buy small attentive gifts (the idea counts, not what it costs).

[Urist is dead tome]

Personally I'd rather celebrate Hanukkah than Christmas but 1. I don't have a Menorah lyin' around. 2. Kosher food is too expensive in Indiana: The land of one, and only one religion.

[Sergius]

I don't see what's changed so much. Used to be a celebration where lots of gambling and feasting was done, and slaves were served by their masters, eating of large amounts of sheep meat and probably wine, and burning lots of wood in a fire to heat up, and putting green stuff everywhere. Mostly to chase away the gloom of the darkest and coldest night of the year.

"Different traditions mention feasting, gambling, playing pranks, giving gifts, visiting, drinking, dressing up, fornicating, putting on plays and staying up all night."

I don't know in what order tho.

They didn't use to have iPods and boardgames and malls and whatever for gifts, but I'm sure if they had, they would have used them.

[Tellemurius]

Personally I'd rather celebrate Hanukkah than Christmas but 1. I don't have a Menorah lyin' around. 2. Kosher food is too expensive in Indiana: The land of one, and only one religion.

you only need a rabbi to bless the food (hopefully made of natural stuff).

[Ephemeriis]

I've really come to hate Christmas.

I mean, I'm all for any excuse to take time off from work and stay at home with my family.  I enjoy the decorations and the music.  Christmas, as it exists within the confines of my own house, is fine.

It's just the commercial monstrosity that it's become outside of my house that I hate.

There's that stupid "Christmas in July" thing...  And then they start advertising Christmas sales and decorating and stuff before Halloween is even done...  Thanksgiving has become nothing more than the kickoff for the holiday shopping season.  You've got commercials telling you that "the more you save, the more Christmas you can give."  It's all about what you can buy or sell.  It's all about the stuff.  I hate it.

It's funny...

Every year the conservative idiots start screaming about the whole "war on Christmas" thing because retailers are putting up non-denominational decorations and saying inclusive things like "Happy Holidays."  They claim the government or the UN or the atheists or the liberal media are trying to destroy Christmas.

But the folks who've done the most damage to Christmas are the commercial retailers.  They're doing everything they can to turn a nice gathering of friends and family into some kind of shopping extravaganza.

[ToonyMan]

What is, commercial?  Does Santa speak to me at night, he does.

[Neonivek]

When December rolls around all I see is commercials dedicated solely to the gifts

They start as early as October here.

[Urist is dead tome]

you only need a rabbi to bless the food (hopefully made of natural stuff).

Much more than that. You must have food slaughtered VERY specifically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shechita

That just the slaughter.