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Author Topic: What once was the feminism thread but now is the circumcision thread.  (Read 24612 times)

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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #225 on: December 19, 2010, 01:20:41 pm »

Another objective of male rights groups. They want circumcision to end.

I'm glad I don't live in a barbaric country that practices universal mutilation of male babies.

There really aren't many of the in the western hemisphere.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #226 on: December 19, 2010, 01:24:27 pm »

Another objective of male rights groups. They want circumcision to end.
As a jew, I am deeply offended by that. Circumcision is THE most holy connection to god for us.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #227 on: December 19, 2010, 01:28:00 pm »

And not Torah study? Not living a pious life? Not dedicating yourself to G-d? Circumcision was only brought about for health reasons. And I practice Christianity in the manner of a culturally Jewish person. So please, don't get all offended over saying something against circumcision.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #228 on: December 19, 2010, 01:52:40 pm »

I personally don't understand what the issue is with (male) circumcision.  The only people who get freaked out by it are those who weren't.  Those who are just shrug and wonder what the big deal is.

And it's weird seeing the David Reimer thing resurface here.  I've read that story before, way back in '97 or '98.... before he apparently committed suicide.... and I don't think his name was given back then.  The details of the case are instantly recognizable, though.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #229 on: December 19, 2010, 01:54:56 pm »

I was saying male circumcision was mutilation as a joke. Probably in poor taste but it was nothing to get offended over. But I don't think that circumcision is the holy connection between Jews and G-d.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #230 on: December 19, 2010, 01:56:43 pm »

Another objective of male rights groups. They want circumcision to end.
As a Jew, I am deeply offended by that. Circumcision is THE most holy connection to god for us.
Wait, really?
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« Reply #231 on: December 19, 2010, 01:57:39 pm »

It's unneeded surgery on a person that incapable of giving or denying consent. Elective surgery shouldn't be performed on people that can't elect it. I mean, what would you think of parents who sent their babies to a surgeon for a nose-job or something like that?
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #232 on: December 19, 2010, 02:00:34 pm »

Another objective of male rights groups. They want circumcision to end.
As a Jew, I am deeply offended by that. Circumcision is THE most holy connection to god for us.
Wait, really?

No not really. It seems he likes being outraged.

It's unneeded surgery on a person that incapable of giving or denying consent. Elective surgery shouldn't be performed on people that can't elect it. I mean, what would you think of parents who sent their babies to a surgeon for a nose-job or something like that?

I got nothing against circumcision but that is true.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #233 on: December 19, 2010, 02:02:50 pm »

It's unneeded surgery on a person that incapable of giving or denying consent. Elective surgery shouldn't be performed on people that can't elect it. I mean, what would you think of parents who sent their babies to a surgeon for a nose-job or something like that?
Not to mention that doctors have been documented trying to convince parents to have it preformed on their children, because the procedure nets them extra profit despite the risk and pain to the child. It's barbaric, and shouldn't be allowed in the modern world, at least not on children.
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« Reply #234 on: December 19, 2010, 02:05:30 pm »

If it is to be performed than it should be performed by highly trained, highly regulated Rabbi's (Or whatever.) who are qualified to perform minor surgery.
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« Reply #235 on: December 19, 2010, 02:21:10 pm »

Not to mention that doctors have been documented trying to convince parents to have it preformed on their children, because the procedure nets them extra profit despite the risk and pain to the child.
Can't emphasize the pain part enough. Here in Bosnia it's tradition among Muslims (they're the only ones who do it) to perform circumcision at 4-5 years of age. I got a friend who was circumcised at 5, and broke his arm falling off a bike at 10, and he says that circumcision was orders of magnitude more painful.

Some might say that it's OK when it's performed on a baby because he won't remember it, but that's like saying that date-rape is OK since roofies cause memory loss.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #236 on: December 19, 2010, 02:22:47 pm »

Another objective of male rights groups. They want circumcision to end.
As a Jew, I am deeply offended by that. Circumcision is THE most holy connection to god for us.
Wait, really?

No not really. It seems he likes being outraged.
No, it is. I believe it was to Abraham, and God says it represents the most holy covenant. If you'd like, I could dig up my copy and prove it to you, if you'd like.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #237 on: December 19, 2010, 02:23:33 pm »

But why get so outraged?
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #238 on: December 19, 2010, 02:36:57 pm »

Religion: Justifying stupid stuff since… uhm, pretty much dawn of humanity.
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« Reply #239 on: December 19, 2010, 02:39:16 pm »

This discussion has to move to the religion thread.
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