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MetalSlimeHunt

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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #90 on: December 18, 2010, 01:30:05 pm »

I am surprised at the amount of people here thinking that men and women are equal, while women are usually (statistically speaking) better motivated, better at complex tasks, less prone to violence and more empathic than men...
Even if all of those things are true (provide me a source, then we'll talk), it doesn't mean women and men aren't equal, or that they should not be. Women have a natural disadvantage to strength, and estrogen causes dementia if the neurochemical balance is thrown in it's favor, but you don't see anyone saying men are better than women (not here at least).
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #91 on: December 18, 2010, 01:32:18 pm »

Muscle strength is largely irrelevant in modern society and dementia usualy sets in after a person's productive life. On the other hand, the advantages women have over men are very relevant in todays society.

Well, you'd need to separate people from the way society treats them because of their gender for this study.  Which would be almost completely impossible.
What would the use of that be? You can't do those studies in a vacuum because people don't live in a vacuum.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #92 on: December 18, 2010, 01:34:54 pm »

Oh, right, I read natural ability into that post where I shouldn't have.  My mistake.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #93 on: December 18, 2010, 01:36:27 pm »

Muscle strength is largely irrelevant in modern society and dementia usualy sets in after a person's productive life. On the other hand, the advantages women have over men are very relevant in todays society.
You...you're not serious, are you? There are countless applcations for strength, and not all of them job related. I still want to see where you get your facts, by the way. I honestly don't see how you can come in here and argue the "men are inferior to women" stance, even more so with you being a male (according to your profile, at least).
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #94 on: December 18, 2010, 01:38:11 pm »

I am surprised at the amount of people here thinking that men and women are equal, while women are usually (statistically speaking) better motivated, better at complex tasks, less prone to violence and more empathic than men...
Yeah... I'm calling BS on this until you provide a reliable source. As in, not wikipedia, and not a source that paints everything in a feminist light.
Muscle strength is largely irrelevant in modern society and dementia usualy sets in after a person's productive life. On the other hand, the advantages women have over men are very relevant in todays society.

Well, you'd need to separate people from the way society treats them because of their gender for this study.  Which would be almost completely impossible.
What would the use of that be? You can't do those studies in a vacuum because people don't live in a vacuum.
So... you prefer a biased study?

I take it you are either a moderate new-wave-feminist woman signed-up as a male, or a really die-hard extremist new-wave-feminist male.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #95 on: December 18, 2010, 01:40:50 pm »

Muscle strength is largely irrelevant in modern society and dementia usualy sets in after a person's productive life. On the other hand, the advantages women have over men are very relevant in todays society.
You...you're not serious, are you? There are countless applcations for strength, and not all of them job related. I still want to see where you get your facts, by the way. I honestly don't see how you can come in here and argue the "men are inferior to women" stance, even more so with you being a male (according to your profile, at least).
What does my gender have to do with this?
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #96 on: December 18, 2010, 01:44:14 pm »

What does my gender have to do with this?
As Breadbox pointed out, you're kind of acting like a second-wave feminist extremist. As in, the same ones that advocate that men are inherently inferior and women must rule them. It's akin to watching a black man donate money to the KKK.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #97 on: December 18, 2010, 01:46:02 pm »

I still don't see the problem? Are you saying that men can't confess their inferiority?
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #98 on: December 18, 2010, 01:46:49 pm »

As Breadbox pointed out, you're kind of acting like a second-wave feminist extremist. As in, the same ones that advocate that men are inherently inferior and women must rule them. It's akin to watching a black man donate money to the KKK.
Wow, I must've missed the part where Virex started advocating lynching men.  I mean, all I saw him do was make a personal value judgement and express surprise that other people didn't reach the same conclusion.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #99 on: December 18, 2010, 01:47:46 pm »

Yeah, and gender really has nothing to do with it either.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #100 on: December 18, 2010, 01:48:19 pm »

I still don't see the problem? Are you saying that men can't confess their inferiority?
I'm saying that men aren't inferior, and that you still haven't provided a source to your claims a page back.

As Breadbox pointed out, you're kind of acting like a second-wave feminist extremist. As in, the same ones that advocate that men are inherently inferior and women must rule them. It's akin to watching a black man donate money to the KKK.
Wow, I must've missed the part where Virex started advocating lynching men.  I mean, all I saw him do was make a personal value judgement and express surprise that other people didn't reach the same conclusion.
No one is inherently inferior to anyone else, why is this concept so hard to understand? No one said anything about lynching men, Virex said that men are inferior while he is indeed a man, which I think is just silly.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #101 on: December 18, 2010, 01:49:52 pm »

Wow, I must've missed the part where Virex started advocating lynching men.  I mean, all I saw him do was make a personal value judgement and express surprise that other people didn't reach the same conclusion.
No one is inherently inferior to anyone else, why is this concept so hard to understand?
I'm not saying otherwise.  Just that it isn't remotely equivalent to a black person donating to the KKK.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #102 on: December 18, 2010, 01:51:40 pm »

I'm all for equality, not for extremist feminism.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #103 on: December 18, 2010, 01:52:41 pm »

Same here.
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Re: The Idea of Feminism.
« Reply #104 on: December 18, 2010, 01:53:54 pm »

I still don't see the problem? Are you saying that men can't confess their inferiority?
As a dude who interacts with other dudes, I happen to know they are quite stubborn. Ever heard of the everpresent husband who got lost, but won't ask for directions? Yeah.

Look the point is, you are making wild claims, with not information to back it up. Now, provide information, or go away, troll. And don't go and say they were your opinions, because earlier you said quite clearly they were medical studies. You can't weasel your way out of this.
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