Also, I'm confused bout the chivalry thing being argued here. Aren't you supposed to hold doors for, you know, everyone, regardless of your or their gender? Its not chivalry, its decency. As for the dinner thing, I think the idea of the man paying comes from the fact the man is traditionally the one who asks the woman out. If you ask someone out, its sort of implied you're treating them. Otherwise, it does come off sort of cheap.
The domestic abuse thing is worrisome, and clearly women have no right to abuse men. I'd agree entirely. But I don't think that has a lot to do with feminism, per se. The real issue is the persistent inequality in politics and business.
One thing I don't like about (radical) feminists is when I hold open a door for a women, she yells at me for treating her like a woman. I'm all against domestic abuse, though, whether the beating's from a man or a woman, it's not funny when it really happens.
There is an inequality in work though. Skills equal, a family woman is less productive, because she'll take maternity time off. I know it sounds like a sexist thing to say, but that's how employers view the numbers. They'd generally have to be more skilled than men, or at least find a more politically correct employer. In politics and anything to do with people, though, women do have an advantage. It's been shown that a man negotiating with a woman gets better deals than two people of the same gender. And it's pretty safe to say that a woman's presence improves morale among a group of men, which is why you'd find women getting treated quite nicer than average around these forums.
I mean look at MIT's stats for one thing. There's far less women applying, but the ratio of acceptance is almost 50-50. I'd say that's biased against men. I'm not opposing it, though, as a 50-50 ratio makes for student life
Though in the end, my favorite feminist is one who doesn't view it as a handicap. I remember one show on the radio where the (female) DJ asked an interviewee, "How do you feel about having to work harder to achieve the same thing as a man does?" To which she replied, "I don't really think about it. I just feel that it's an obstacle I have to work around."
Best way is to think about it as being a minority. Don't counter with anti-discrimination BS which equals discrimination in itself. Just show that you're capable of doing things and people will respect you more. Any anti-feminism in this thread is a result of all those worthless radicals who discriminate against men and don't want to work hard. Men are just as capable of being lazy and loud, but they don't always represent other men when they do it; usually fighting against immigration, high college workloads, and such. Don't be swayed by the minority who claim to represent their own.
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