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[MetalSlimeHunt]

good thing we are basing our current knowledge of the world on a calendar created about ten billion years ago, would hate to think we have actually made scientific advances in that time

The Gregorian Calendar was created six billion years before Earth's formation?

[ToonyMan]

This thread is a conspiracy maaan, aliens and stuff would never munch munch munch

Double down maaaaaaaaaaan

[GTM]

The funny thing - and I could be off here - is that the long Calendar - the one in question - is cyclical and resets every 5000 years.  We happen to be on a cycle that started in ~3000 bc and ends in 2012.  However, homo sapiens have been through at least 20 of these cycles.  You can't even make the argument that the date range coincides with human civilization, since the latest estimates of human agrarian civilization are still in the previous cycle, 1000 years before this cycle began.

That is, unless we're wrong in our date estimates.  But seeing as how the Mayans couldn't even predict the end of their own civilization, they're no smarter than we are...

[nenjin]

You can't even make the argument that the date range coincides with human civilization, since the latest estimates of human agrarian civilization are still in the previous cycle, 1000 years before this cycle began.

You mean how we created a time scale that eclipses the human race's existence about 4,000 times over, describing the time scale of planets and universes instead of the human life span?

The Mayans were gifted theorists and observers of the natural world. They're still human, as the collapse of most the Central and South American cultures shows, despite their advances.

[malimbar04]

The funny thing - and I could be off here - is that the long Calendar - the one in question - is cyclical and resets every 5000 years.  We happen to be on a cycle that started in ~3000 bc and ends in 2012.  However, homo sapiens have been through at least 20 of these cycles.  You can't even make the argument that the date range coincides with human civilization, since the latest estimates of human agrarian civilization are still in the previous cycle, 1000 years before this cycle began.

That is, unless we're wrong in our date estimates.  But seeing as how the Mayans couldn't even predict the end of their own civilization, they're no smarter than we are...

The obvious point, before going into the coolness of the Mayan calender, is that it doesn't end. In fact, it NEVER ends. It's even more cyclical than ours, as it's actually represented by wheels that move in each other.

[Grakelin]

Keep in mind that the Mayan Calender's Great Cycle already ended on March 13th, 830, June 15th, 1224, and September 18th, 1618, but none of those ended the world either.  It's all just so stupid. I wonder if Double Downs Man thinks the alien masters will return in 2012?

Orly?

C. 800-900 AD (Like, maybe, 830!) - Mayan Classical Period Ends. Terminal Period. Classic Maya collapse.

C. 1250 (Like, around 1224 maybe?) - The Mayans reform into various city states, with Tayasal as a major centre.

1618 - "In 1618 two Franciscan friars were sent from Mérida to teach Christianity to the Itza. They arrived in Tayasal to find the people uninfluenced by European ways and still worshipping the traditional Mesoamerican gods. While the Itza king received them politely, they made no progress in converting the people to Christianity. In 1622, the Governor of Yucatán sent a force of 20 Spaniards and 140 Christian Indian allies to march on Tayasal" - MY GOD!

Gentlemen, I do believe the Mayans were great prophets after all! They actually did predict the destruction of their Civilization.

Skeptics got nothing on my superior research.




Sucks we're all going to die, though.

[Nilocy]

Keep in mind that the Mayan Calender's Great Cycle already ended on March 13th, 830, June 15th, 1224, and September 18th, 1618, but none of those ended the world either.  It's all just so stupid. I wonder if Double Downs Man thinks the alien masters will return in 2012?

Orly?

C. 800-900 AD (Like, maybe, 830!) - Mayan Classical Period Ends. Terminal Period. Classic Maya collapse.

C. 1250 (Like, around 1224 maybe?) - The Mayans reform into various city states, with Tayasal as a major centre.

1618 - "In 1618 two Franciscan friars were sent from Mérida to teach Christianity to the Itza. They arrived in Tayasal to find the people uninfluenced by European ways and still worshipping the traditional Mesoamerican gods. While the Itza king received them politely, they made no progress in converting the people to Christianity. In 1622, the Governor of Yucatán sent a force of 20 Spaniards and 140 Christian Indian allies to march on Tayasal" - MY GOD!

Gentlemen, I do believe the Mayans were great prophets after all! They actually did predict the destruction of their Civilization.

Skeptics got nothing on my superior research.




Sucks we're all going to die, though.

Maybe the Mayans will reform next year and then die out in 2012 again.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Keep in mind that the Mayan Calender's Great Cycle already ended on March 13th, 830, June 15th, 1224, and September 18th, 1618, but none of those ended the world either.  It's all just so stupid. I wonder if Double Downs Man thinks the alien masters will return in 2012?

Orly?

C. 800-900 AD (Like, maybe, 830!) - Mayan Classical Period Ends. Terminal Period. Classic Maya collapse.

C. 1250 (Like, around 1224 maybe?) - The Mayans reform into various city states, with Tayasal as a major centre.

1618 - "In 1618 two Franciscan friars were sent from Mérida to teach Christianity to the Itza. They arrived in Tayasal to find the people uninfluenced by European ways and still worshipping the traditional Mesoamerican gods. While the Itza king received them politely, they made no progress in converting the people to Christianity. In 1622, the Governor of Yucatán sent a force of 20 Spaniards and 140 Christian Indian allies to march on Tayasal" - MY GOD!

Gentlemen, I do believe the Mayans were great prophets after all! They actually did predict the destruction of their Civilization.

Skeptics got nothing on my superior research.




Sucks we're all going to die, though.

Maybe the Mayans will reform next year and then die out in 2012 again.

There are still some Mayans left, actually. Very, very few of them. I guess Mexico (or whatever region the survivors have since moved to) could decide on a whim to ethnicly cleanse them, but I don't see why...wait....paramilitary gangs....Mexican government instablity....gang racism...oh. Oh. Shit.

[Nether]

Even putting aside the obvious "Will the world end then?" question, you've still got to wonder why the Mayan calender ends then.

Probably the exact same reason we'll stop making calendars: to confuse the hell out of the cricket people of the future and make them believe in the end of the world. I mean, we could print calenders for the year 3000 if we wanted to...but what would be the point?

Would make a big-ass calendar though!

[G-Flex]

The Maya did not believe the world would actually end in 2012 (the end of the 13th b'ak'tun). This has basically been made up by scam artists, even to the point of retroactively editing books written before it was made up to include the information, which is pretty Orwellian, in a sense.

[Psyco Jelly]

Nibiru will ride Time Wave Zero, teaming up with Planet X and enter the earth's atmosphere. Meanwhile a supervolcano in yellowstone will erupt, forcing the polar shift to occur, pulling them in to collide with earth. Luckily Quetzalcoatl will deflect them back in to space, destroying the reptillian mothership.

But then Odin will challenge Quetz to an arm wrestle, because only one can be on earth at a time. While this is happening, Wormwood will fall, and armogeddon will commence. Unfortunately the god returning will be the Old Testament one.

Then DF 2012 will be released, ending the world.

[alway]

Also, LHC stargate.

[The Doctor]

Hey, don't forget Russia invading Israel for no discernible reason!

[MetalSlimeHunt]

And the Nazis that will emerge from their secret Antarctic base to take over the world.

[Duelmaster409]

Hey look, turns out Hitler had a son and HE IS ALSO IN CONTACT WITH ALIENS FROM A FAR AWAY CONSTELLATION! The Nazis rejoice as the alien armada, Zombie Jesus, Armok, the Ghostbusters, and an omnipotent Toady One embark on a glorious holocaust against anyone who believes that the world is going to end in 2012.