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Re: This is ridiculous (warning(?) google BS)
« Reply #75 on: December 18, 2010, 01:01:09 am »

I'm an atheist and a philosopher so I have an equal mental and so then social standing at least.

You're too young to be claiming you're a philosopher. You have minimal education and have little to no knowledge of this world. And besides, just cause you're an Atheist doesn't mean you shouldn't read the Bible.
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« Reply #76 on: December 18, 2010, 01:03:22 am »

Being an Atheist is more of a reason to read the bible, if only so you can understand your enemy and eliminate them more effectively.
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« Reply #77 on: December 18, 2010, 01:03:59 am »

Well at least he would read it.
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« Reply #78 on: December 18, 2010, 01:14:24 am »

I'm an atheist and a philosopher so I have an equal mental and so then social standing at least.

You're too young to be claiming you're a philosopher. You have minimal education and have little to no knowledge of this world. And besides, just cause you're an Atheist doesn't mean you shouldn't read the Bible.
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I'll bite anyways though.

I think it's safe to say that age doesn't matter, much like gender, or for that matter art degrees. While knowledge of the world is certainly useful, any small piece of it could technically disprove every point of someone else. combine that with the fact that everyone has at least SOME knowledge of the world, this becomes somewhat irrelevant for considering respect; or for that matter, a debate. If a person doesn't know something, then you should be able to teach them.

As for the thought that an atheist should read the christian bible, why? Most people don't even read the constitution to their country, let alone state, let alone even know the laws where they live. The Bible is far less useful in everyday life than that. In importance to philosophy, I'd rate it among comic books.

In importance to culture, perhaps higher, but only because so many people think specific parts of it are factual. Even that is cherry picked though, as evidenced by their actions. We don't, for example, follow much of anything form Leviticus, the book of laws. Most people also don't believe a bat is a type of bird, even if they believe that moses held two huge walls of water while thousands of slaves walked through a canyon under the red sea.

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« Reply #79 on: December 18, 2010, 01:17:58 am »

Most people don't follow the Laws set in Leviticus (Or to a lesser extent Deuteronomy.) Because they were taught that they were no longer required in the New Testament.
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« Reply #80 on: December 18, 2010, 03:41:20 pm »

Well, Christ specifically forbade following some of those laws.
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« Reply #81 on: December 18, 2010, 03:41:50 pm »

Such as?
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« Reply #82 on: December 18, 2010, 03:43:12 pm »

For example, he banned the death penalty for adultery.
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« Reply #83 on: December 18, 2010, 03:45:03 pm »

Good point. He replaced that with "Adultery gets you kicked out of the house!" A much more mellow method.
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« Reply #84 on: December 18, 2010, 03:48:11 pm »

Huh? The only thing he did was allow adultery as an exception it his general anti-divorce stance. Really, if you read the thing, most of the televangelists and moral guardians qualify as antichrists (in the biblical sense, there's no single Antichrist. The word "antichrist" merely refers to anyone who works in oppostion to Christ. There's no scriptual evidence for the Rapture either.)
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« Reply #85 on: December 18, 2010, 03:51:24 pm »

Really, if you read the thing, most of the televangelists and moral guardians qualify as antichrists.There's no scriptual evidence for the Rapture either.


This made my day.


There's no scriptual evidence for the Rapture either.


How is that different from the events in the Book of Relevations?
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« Reply #86 on: December 18, 2010, 04:07:18 pm »

Evin if you accept that the Book of Revelations is both scripually valid (many theologians dispute it's inclusion in canon,) and that it is a prohpecy of events yet to be fulfilled (the Catholic church and many protestant denominations beleive that it largely refers to the fall of the Roman Empire) , the idea that the faithful will be removed from the earth before the Tribulation is a 19th century invention, and has little scriptural foundation.
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« Reply #87 on: December 18, 2010, 04:08:40 pm »

Nineteenth century? What devilry is this!
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« Reply #88 on: December 18, 2010, 08:37:57 pm »

...the idea that the faithful will be removed from the earth before the Tribulation is a 19th century invention...
Citation?

'Cos, I'd sure like to have something that prove that on my hands.
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« Reply #89 on: December 18, 2010, 09:00:31 pm »

From wikipedia:

"John Nelson Darby, considered[by whom?] the father of dispensationalism, first proposed the pre-tribulation rapture in 1827.[29] This view was accepted among many other Plymouth Brethren in England"
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