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I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« on: December 13, 2010, 05:55:14 pm »

Specifically, I need population info on elephants. Any elephants.

Preferably, my teacher says, *.edu sites. *.org sites are completely off limits.

I can handle the essay itself, but me using a search engine is like Stephen Hawking entering the 100 meter run for the Olympic Gold. Spectacular failure.
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2010, 06:10:29 pm »

Be cheeky.  See if you can find a .edu source that references a .org source.  Be sure to point it out.
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 06:11:15 pm »

Specifically, I need population info on elephants. Any elephants.

Preferably, my teacher says, *.edu sites. *.org sites are completely off limits.

Which rules out the Wikipedia archive of Stephen Colbert's groundbreaking report on elephant overpopulation.

Uhh... You have JSTOR access?
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 08:37:21 pm »

Out of curiosity I searched elephants in google and found elephants.com. Apparently there's a population of 14 elephants living in Tennessee of all places. Though I'm not sure if that counts.
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 08:45:12 pm »

Out of curiosity I searched elephants in google and found elephants.com. Apparently there's a population of 14 elephants living in Tennessee of all places. Though I'm not sure if that counts.

This changes everything! My thesis is no longer "Save the elephants". No, now I say "NUKE TENNESSEE!!"

No, but I don't think that'll count. Really cool to know though.

Which rules out the Wikipedia archive of Stephen Colbert's groundbreaking report on elephant overpopulation.

Uhh... You have JSTOR access?
What is JSTOR? It might be useful.
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 08:55:03 pm »

JSTOR generally only gives access out to college campuses. (It's basically a network hub for online research journals.)

That wouldn't stop you from walking to your university computer lab and seeing if they have access.

And seriously, nice instructions teacher. "You're not allowed to use any websites with domain names that imply they're giving you actual researched information. Please see "Watchelephantsdoit.com" for all your info needs.

Or is she just trying to force you guys to go to the library and actually read a book?
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2010, 09:11:59 pm »

I'm not in college, actually. High School.

And she's pointing us towards *.edu sites. We can still use .coms, but she won't accept .org because those are biased somehow?

And I don't think our school library has any books on the recent population fluctuations of elephants.
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 09:14:17 pm »

And she's pointing us towards *.edu sites. We can still use .coms, but she won't accept .org because those are biased somehow?

Doesn't that mean you can use any old Angelfire site?  Or Time Cube?  She clearly didn't think this through.
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 09:29:29 pm »

Screw the teacher, use an .org site.
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2010, 09:37:43 pm »

your teacher is an idiot and you have my full permission to tell her that a stranger on the internet thinks so

there is no inherent difference between a .com, .org. .edu, or .whatever other than the fees they pay to keep it registered and the appropriate local regulations (for instance, .edu only being allowed for registered and accredited educational bodies)

what's important is that the content, on any page, is cited and as free from bias as is applicable to the subject, which nothing in the type of address will inherently alter, lessen, or magnify
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2010, 09:41:20 pm »

And she's pointing us towards *.edu sites. We can still use .coms, but she won't accept .org because those are biased somehow?

Doesn't that mean you can use any old Angelfire site?  Or Time Cube?  She clearly didn't think this through.
USE TIMECUBE.
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2010, 09:42:36 pm »

Stupid and arbitrary demand is stupid and arbitrary. Lie about the URLs, replace all the .orgs with .coms or .edus. Simple.
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2010, 09:43:06 pm »

Come to think of it, I don't think many *.edu sites host much stuff besides very-institution-related material.  Which is to say, I don't think you're going to find anything relevant on such sites, especially since *.org is usually the accredited stuff.  Maybe you should ask her, like, what sites she has in mind, since it doesn't sound like she has a firm grasp of what the Internet is.
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2010, 09:45:02 pm »

Brotip:  Use wikipedia as your primary source, and just cite whatever they cited for a particular fact.  They'll never know.
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Re: I need resources for a school paper. Care to help me look?
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2010, 09:48:19 pm »

Brotip:  Use wikipedia as your primary source, and just cite whatever they cited for a particular fact.  They'll never know.
Brilliant. Unless it references a .org. Or there is a [citation needed].
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