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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #165 on: January 02, 2011, 02:41:39 am »

@Sean Mirrsen:  My bad, I only really scanned the list  :o

@Nistenf:  Several reasons, most of which are simple a matter of personal preference.
1. Not being able to touch type, I have a massive disadvantage when using a PC, which really does make a difference in faster paced games (such as a FPS.)
1.5. With my PS3, I have a wireless contoller which negates this.  All the buttons I could possibly need are a lot more accessible (and I don't get horrible hand cramp after playing for hours.  Trying to hold shift, space and F down repeatedly is not fun.)
2. I find it a LOT easier to aim with the analogue sticks than a mouse.  I always play with the y axis inverted, which is really counter intuitive with a mouse.
3. I've noticed (generally slight) FPS slowdowns when many characters are on screen at once, or there's loads of particle effects going off.  This happens a lot less on my PS3.
4. Three other people can sit on my couch and play with me comfortably.  Online will never be the same as having your mates with you.

I pretty much just use my PC for the slower paced games.  DF, the Total War series, sims etc.  Games where I'm gonna have to click on things and go through menus, rather FPS where a split second of hesitations means you lose.  It's all just personal preference though, I'm not gonna throw my dummy out the cot if anyone disagrees with me.
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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #166 on: January 02, 2011, 02:59:03 am »

I also think the console versus PC thing is fucking stupid and should be left alone.
I play PC and console games pretty much equally.  I would never dream of playing an RTS on my PS3, or a FPS on my PC.  In my personal experiences, each does different things better than the other.  Arguing over which is better is pointless and idiotic.

Why would you want to play a FPS on a console rather than PC?
Uniform server experience, easier to play friends in a face to face set up. Depending on how you go about yer multiplayer, easier time playing with friends across the net. Xbox invite system is quite smashing for bringing in friends either in the game you are playing or the very next one. Less trouble shooting too. (This one kinda of goes in with uniform server experience.)

I agree, that a mouse and keyboard set up is a superior input model for FPS, but I only see that as mattering when you're playing in a competition, and only if you playing cross platform. (Which I'm pretty sure does not happen in any official capacity.)

If your in a competition, and its via console then the aiming nudge is a none factor, as its equal for all sides. There are still noticeable skill differences between console FPS players.

An aside, Halo: Reach aiming nudge is very noticeable, and forceful. Its been the cause lowering my K/D ratio for more then one game. 8/

In my years of playing FPS on both consoles and PC, I've had a /much/ better playing experience via the console then the PC. The ill repute reputation of console vocalization, is an exaggeration. Its not that common, and most games offer a mute button for those few/rare individuals. Whereas I've experience grieving far more often on PCs, dick mods, crappy servers and arbitrary undeclared server rules. (One that I can remember clearly pissing my off some ten years ago in a Counter-Strike game, was that you randomly became a hapless low HP chicken for the rest of the round.)

These issues can go away once you find some good servers, but for myself this seems to fight against my casual nature toward the FPS games in particular. I generally play them to more or less have something to do, or keep myself occupied as I listen to a book on mp3.

Please don't take this as a herp da dur console iz better. Its just my antidote as to why I prefer FPS on consoles over PC.
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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #167 on: January 02, 2011, 03:12:59 am »

Heh. Matter of preference it is then. (Among other things, I can't understand how the hell anyone plays with Y-axis inverted... except in flight sims, obviously.)

As for the T-Shirt, eh, maybe. It implies a KDR that's "ugly as hell", which doesn't quite connect together for me. But then again, I like my "I'm going nucking FUTS" shirt. :)
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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #168 on: January 02, 2011, 03:24:11 am »

I can't understand how the hell anyone plays with Y-axis inverted... except in flight sims, obviously.

Think of yourself as a controller.  Your head tilts back when you look up, and forward when you look down.

That and the fact that the first FPS I ever played had Y-axis inverted by default.
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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #169 on: January 02, 2011, 03:29:12 am »

I can't understand how the hell anyone plays with Y-axis inverted... except in flight sims, obviously.

Think of yourself as a controller.  Your head tilts back when you look up, and forward when you look down.

That and the fact that the first FPS I ever played had Y-axis inverted by default.

For myself, it depends on how the game was introduce to me. If someone hands me an inverted Y axis set up, I cannot play that game unless its inverted Y axis. (Unless there have been a long break since I've last played the game.)

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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #170 on: January 02, 2011, 03:36:05 am »

Huh...don't most games come with a handy little option that lets you flip the axis?
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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #171 on: January 02, 2011, 03:46:20 am »

They did for a while. No clue if the newer stuff still does, but it's a pretty common FPS option.

Anyway, mild curiosity is kinda' peaked. What do the folks here think, when they think "dead?" Are we talking complete and total lack of any development, AAA-mainstream or otherwise, at all -- even to the point stuff like DF and roguelike-level development no longer exists? Simply a lack of continued growth? Th'end of large scale (AAA, etc.) development for the system? Th'actual ceasing of personal computers entirely as a system? What level of dead are we talking here?
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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #172 on: January 02, 2011, 03:52:34 am »

I think inverted Y-axis doesn't make sense simply because we hold a controller up and down, not flat.  You say up on the stick, and down on the stick, with a flight stick you place it flat, so you push forward on the stick, which is like down, back is like up, needless to say up is up and down is down.
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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #173 on: January 02, 2011, 05:26:06 am »

I hold my controller perpendicular to my TV, so it makes more sense to me. It's all a matter of personal preference.

And for aim nudges, I wish there was an off button on those. >.<
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« Reply #174 on: January 02, 2011, 05:40:52 am »

How does this sound for a t-shirt?

You have a K/D ratio only a mother could love.

I prefer, "I fragged your mother, deal with it."
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« Reply #175 on: January 02, 2011, 06:26:56 am »

What I don't understand is how people can find pads more comfortable than mouse and keyboard. Those things make my thumbs bleed in a couple of hours. Also the lack of fine control in turning must be a bitch.
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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #176 on: January 02, 2011, 06:34:17 am »

What I don't understand is how people can find pads more comfortable than mouse and keyboard. Those things make my thumbs bleed in a couple of hours. Also the lack of fine control in turning must be a bitch.

Here's a theory for ya.

The one you find more comfortable is due to a combination of time spent using that medium and which you originally learned.
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« Reply #177 on: January 02, 2011, 06:50:04 am »

No, I'm pretty sure that pumping buttons with my thumbs is inherently more cramp-inducing than pumping left click. The thumb position on the controller is a lot less relaxed than the index finger position on the mouse, simply because the index finger is held straight.
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Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« Reply #178 on: January 02, 2011, 06:51:14 am »

What I don't understand is how people can find pads more comfortable than mouse and keyboard. Those things make my thumbs bleed in a couple of hours. Also the lack of fine control in turning must be a bitch.

Here's a theory for ya.

The one you find more comfortable is due to a combination of time spent using that medium and which you originally learned.

I grew up with the old Playstation. Then I found out you could use the PC for gaming, and quickly found it far more comfortable to use.
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« Reply #179 on: January 02, 2011, 07:03:26 am »

I find controllers more ergonomic. Its a matter of preference.
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