Dariush... uh... pretty much OMGUS'd JTF and hasn't looked back since. Care to explain? Really, "twisting my words" without explaining how is one of the common ways for scum to dodge an attack. He also criticises JTF's reason for having lynched Argembarger, but once again I'm left to guess at his reasoning behind this allegation.
So, I have to go through the thread and gather up my reasons. Very well.
Dariush. You need to clarify your reason for voting Janus, and clear up the contradictions that have cropped up in your posts. I find this particularly interesting:
If you still haven't noticed, my OMGUS was a randomvote which I later supplied with lots of arguments.
Assuming we are to accept this story, why did you make up the reasons for voting AFTER actually voting?
Maybe because it was
start of the day one?
Dariush is just begging to be lynched, has been since Day 1 although it's getting worse. Easy Lynch.
Yeah, sure, that's exactly why I wasn't voted for by anyone on D1.
Dariush is only concerned with self-preservation. He hulked out that I voted him for his randomvote on Day 1, and he hulked out that JTF put him in the middle of his list of suspicions. These are not big deals, but he treats them like they are. Then he says a bunch of stupid stuff all the time, like the little nugget you quoted. I don't know whether he's doing this purposefully or if he's a giant idiot, but I really want to find out.
Are you blind or something? Your vote against me was only the first step, and I defended against JTF so that nobody will quote that post and accuse me because I ignored JTF's accusations.
Also he's annoying.
Yeah, really great reason, Mr. Asshole.
If you still haven't noticed, my OMGUS was a randomvote which I later supplied with lots of arguments.
Assuming we are to accept this story, why did you make up the reasons for voting AFTER actually voting?
His explanation is contradictory with the reasons he stated for the OMGUS previously.
When I say 'randomvote', I don't mean 'a vote picked by using
www.random.org', but a vote on the slightest incentive that can later be changed or supplied with arguments.
Toaster:
1. Why do you ask the question if you answered it in the same post? Let's seee... He was passive, he didn't give any good reason as to why he didn't back out of Argembarger's bandwagon, he OMGUSed me right after stating I was low in his scumlist, plus twisting my word
here.
2. Once JTF was about to hang, Jim suddenly changed his vote, and later, when I was about to hang, he changed his vote to me. Plus the same reasons from D1 still hold. Plus he's an idiot.
3. Would I have changed it if I DIDN'T think it was a good choice?
Now, explanation about 'twisting my words' part:
Reply #68 - Asks why Org tends to get killed early while voting him, self-contradictory
Reply #95 - Blatent OMGUS against Jim Groovester, although possibly deserved in this instance
Reply #139 - Says Jim wants to lynch someone/anyone when the quote he included counters that
Reply #174 - Admits to aiming for a passive game
Reply #223 - Wants me to explain why I am disregarding MBP's claim and then does the same thing two posts later
Reply #245 - Thinks MBP should be ignored until Day 2, not really helpful to ever ignore anyone
Very angry, mostly because of / at Jim Groovester. Twisting quotes and blatent OMGUS, but I don't think he did either on purpose. Don't really have more of a reason for that than a gut feeling.
1)
So, I guess this is as good time to ask it as any:
Why does Org always get lynched or killed in the first couple of days?
Awww, I always wanted to ask that with red text
I hope everybody except scum would understand that it was plain old randomvote, so here's first twisting.
2)
I'm voting you because you're freaking out that I voted you.
You call that freaking out? You've spent half of the last game and the entirety of this one piling unrelated arguments against me. That is a reason for such a reaction. And you still didn't say why you picked my reason for randomvote of all others.
Your words will kill you. Choose them better next time.
Ah Oh, sorry pardon me. Surely Of course I'll do so keep this in mind the next time you're trying to accuse me because you don't like my choice of words I'm under suspicion.
Damn, why do I even spend time on this meaningless defense against someone who is hellbent on lynching me? Unvote, vote Jim.
He attacked me based on my
choice of words. That was as good a reason as any to change my randomvote for Org to randomvote for Jim and see the reaction. His reaction confirmed what I thought about him, and my vote stopped being (pseudo)random.
3)
Let's just lynch somebody scummy and get back to this on Day 2.
Hurr, I was correct about your intention of lynching someone. Anyone.
Either Jim meant 'let's lynch scum' and stated an obvious and useless thing or he meant 'let's lynch someone who
looks like scum', which is a scummy thing. Initially I thought he meant the second possibility, but it may be also the first. I humbly admit my error.
4)
Dariush is still in my top 3 picks. His reasons for voting you were mostly OMGUS. He's far too concerned with making himself look good. And on top of that, he's only had 5 posts this game, so he's clearly been lurky.
I respond whenever I have something to say or when I'm directly addressed. Also, about half of this game was spent arguing about whether MBP's claim can or can not be trusted. It was stated several times that that is a nulltell and those statements were ignored, so I didn't bother repeating what was said (and ignored) earlier.
I
wasn't aiming for passive game - what I said is that I have said everything I had to and don't have anything else to say until something happens. And yes, by 'everything' I meant I questioned everyone suspicious, etc. Second twisting.
5)
JTF, why did you pick the least active players as 3 out of your 4 suspects? Do you want to quietly hang them while picking off active players at night? What are you other reasons?
Also, what are you reasons to disregard MBP as a suspect except for belief that scum won't claim Kook on D1? Do you understand the WIFOM possibility?
I think I conveyed the answer adequately in my initial response:
I disregarded the importance of MBP's claim. You disregarded any suspicion toward him. See the difference?
Third twisting.
6)
Yes, I indeed think that MBP's claim should be ignored (for now). If we lynch him, nobody would ever claim Kook again. If we don't lynch him (because of his claim), every dopp would claim Kook. Man, this is the first day, we don't know virtually anything!
When I said 'ignored', I didn't mean either that he should not be lynched at all or that he should be lynched D2. What I meant is that we shouldn't try to get something of his claim, which doesn't change a thing. Fourth twisting.
In total, we have 4 quotes out of 6 twisted by JTF to suit his (future) accusations. Sufficient?
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