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mainiac

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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #705 on: April 18, 2012, 09:59:32 pm »

Hey, one thing at a time.  It was hard enough getting the information density thing across.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #706 on: April 18, 2012, 11:09:22 pm »

That is not the discussion we were having.  We were discussing real world physics, not magical brain tumor world physics.  Believe it or not but sometimes threads in this forum meander as to their topic.

You're discussing the real world physics of a machine that noone has ever built or has any idea how to build, and which exists solely in the realm of science fiction, though? Or has wikipedia lied to me? (wouldn't be the first time)
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #707 on: April 18, 2012, 11:12:27 pm »

That is not the discussion we were having.  We were discussing real world physics, not magical brain tumor world physics.  Believe it or not but sometimes threads in this forum meander as to their topic.

You're discussing the real world physics of a machine that noone has ever built or has any idea how to build, and which exists solely in the realm of science fiction, though? Or has wikipedia lied to me? (wouldn't be the first time)

No, ansibles don't exist. That shouldn't stop a good argument though, should it now?
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #708 on: April 18, 2012, 11:44:40 pm »

Yeah, it's in magic brain cancer world, but it clearly states that it's (ab)using an actual property of quantum physics.  If they wanted to magic brain tumor it, they could.  They used real physics, and therefore they're subject to scrutiny using real physics.

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« Reply #709 on: April 19, 2012, 12:10:49 am »

Yeah, it's in magic brain cancer world, but it clearly states that it's (ab)using an actual property of quantum physics.  If they wanted to magic brain tumor it, they could.  They used real physics, and therefore they're subject to scrutiny using real physics.
This is why you should try to use as little real physics as possible in these things, because real physics sucks, is illogical, and looks unrealistic.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #710 on: April 19, 2012, 07:34:16 am »

Yeah, it's in magic brain cancer world, but it clearly states that it's (ab)using an actual property of quantum physics.  If they wanted to magic brain tumor it, they could.  They used real physics, and therefore they're subject to scrutiny using real physics.

Where and in what game did they say this, out of curiosity? Because the way ME handles technology changes pretty drastically from game to game.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #711 on: April 19, 2012, 08:14:39 am »

You know what we need?

RACHNI-BASED FTL COMMUNICATION.

No quantum black box. Rachni box. Rachni-with-a-typewriter box.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #712 on: April 19, 2012, 08:38:04 am »

You know what we need?

RACHNI-BASED FTL COMMUNICATION.

No quantum black box. Rachni box. Rachni-with-a-typewriter box.

That's surely the most unsecure form of communication ever devised?
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #713 on: April 19, 2012, 08:53:03 am »

Seriously. I know what you mean.

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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #714 on: April 19, 2012, 09:03:55 am »

I like to believe the Rachni behave like those pikmin things, just blindly following anyone anywhere, heedless of danger or self preservation. Maybe on their planet they had no predators or natural dangers, and so never evolved a concept of self preservation or common sense.
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« Reply #715 on: April 19, 2012, 10:37:17 am »

Isn't indoctrination involuntary?
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« Reply #716 on: April 19, 2012, 11:53:50 am »

Well most technology is abusing physics ;P

Mass Effect tries to be on the "One Big Lie" Spectrum of Science Fiction Hardness, which means it tries to stick to real world physics but has one or two pieces of phlebotinum (eezo in Mass Effect) that it uses to explain the less realistic aspects.

In comparison, you have things which take known and developing world technologies and try to extrapolate from there, whilst sticking as close to what is possible as they can.

For example, take Ghost in the Shell or Deus Ex Human Revolution, which at least try to take what people are trying to do with real life prosthetics and go from there, assuming "major and sudden breakthroughs" in the whole brain-device interface. Assume we have a breakthrough make a learning machine that can be plugged into the brain so the brain and device can learn to work together like it's a limb, suddenly a lot of Human Revolution's augmentations become more plausible.

And you have soft science fiction which basically shrugs and says "science did it" to explain what amounts to space magic.

Mass Effect, at least the first one, did make attempts to be somewhat "hard" outside of "ezzo did it", especially if you read the codex, so those attempts at hardness can be at least considered and scrutinised.
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« Reply #717 on: April 19, 2012, 11:56:05 am »

Isn't indoctrination involuntary?
The rachni are just ridiculous though
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« Reply #718 on: April 19, 2012, 12:00:08 pm »

Isn't indoctrination involuntary?

No. The Reapers are Electronic Arts. Indoctrination is just hard cold cash.

They did it to the Avatar, now they do it to the Rachni.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #719 on: April 19, 2012, 01:15:11 pm »

In other news, EA's stock dropped below $15.

Bwahahahahahaha
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