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[Domenique]

You're only giving one reason not to like the game, and that is that you couldn't get the ending that you wanted, while the ending should be something that the writers want to be. Some like closure, some like speculation, you can't please everyone. There was a reflection of your choices in galactic readiness. It's not like they've said: "Yeah, everything you do affects the ending".

you cant make a game that was based on some exploring and lots of decision to have diferent responses and endings

Where does it say that, the bible?

It was the Jews? I knew it!

Amazingly you're the only person here who got what I'm trying to say.

[MorleyDev]

So from what I've seen of videos of ME3 the dialogue tree for conversations has been broken down to two options if they even give you that, whilst a lot of the time Shepard just talks without any player control?

And I always felt the combat in a Bioware game was just there to provide a change of scenery between conversations...

[Pnx]

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/03/16

"And it's your birthday, Shephard! The Krogan baked you a cake!" is one of the best lines ever.

[Digital Hellhound]

So from what I've seen of videos of ME3 the dialogue tree for conversations has been broken down to two options if they even give you that, whilst a lot of the time Shepard just talks without any player control?

Pretty much, yes. Choices in conversation are usually reserved for when you're deciding the fates of entire species, everything else is autodialogue. I didn't personally mind this so much, but after finishing the game all these problems I barely noticed before are popping up. ME3 as a whole could've used a lot more polishing and resolution aside from the ending, truth to be told (mainly, ME2 characters, and their romances).

Still a great game for the most part, though. And thankfully the ending only ruined it for me, so I can still enjoy the first two! Some people had it much worse.

@Pnx: Kinda annoying to see PA assume the complaints are stemming from the darkness of the ending, but yes indeed, quite funny.

[SeriousConcentrate]

Also, um, weird glitch? I killed Tali off in my current import from Mass Effect 2, right? Her name is on the memorial thing in the Normandy and everything. Yet she's all 'hey Shep glad to be back on the Normandy' and Shepard doesn't even ask 'did they Laz you too?' I don't know what the hell, I mean I killed Garrus off too and he didn't show up when he was supposed to. O.o

Edit after thinking about it: Then again this is the save file I hacked way back when so the F!Shep was romancing Ashley in ME1. Probably a side effect of that, I'd guess. ^^^;

[thvaz]

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/03/16

"And it's your birthday, Shephard! The Krogan baked you a cake!" is one of the best lines ever.

Penny Arcade sucks. They are completely sold to the video game industry. Besides, most people aren't asking for a happy ending, but for a ending that make sense.

[Domenique]

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/03/16

"And it's your birthday, Shephard! The Krogan baked you a cake!" is one of the best lines ever.

Penny Arcade sucks. They are completely sold to the video game industry. Besides, most people aren't asking for a happy ending, but for a ending that make sense.

Most of the complaints were about the fact that the ending was gritty (as much as I've read from the user comments on gamespot, gamebanshee and here), and the ending is nonsensical depending on the person, for me it was ok in making sense.

Also, some comments from the director:
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/324/index/10089946

[Digital Hellhound]

Forbes have written 4-5 fan-supporting articles about the ending and reaction already and show no signs of stopping. To me that's pretty amazing - I didn't really expect anything from them.

Here's a pretty insightful analysis of Bioware's response to the outcry by someone who works/worked in PR; http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-Story-and-Campaign-Discussion-Spoilers-Allowed/EABioware-in-Full-PR-Damage-Control-Mode-UPDATED-10084349-1.html

(Sorry for not url-tagging that, iPads aren't really good for that.)

Plenty of other interesting posts on the forums by published authors, scriptwriters, people 'in the biz' and whatnot too about the situation and why they believe the ending doesn't work, but threads right now get buried fast so you'd need to do some digging.

[fenrif]

Forbes have written 4-5 fan-supporting articles about the ending and reaction already and show no signs of stopping. To me that's pretty amazing - I didn't really expect anything from them.

Here's a pretty insightful analysis of Bioware's response to the outcry by someone who works/worked in PR; http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-Story-and-Campaign-Discussion-Spoilers-Allowed/EABioware-in-Full-PR-Damage-Control-Mode-UPDATED-10084349-1.html

(Sorry for not url-tagging that, iPads aren't really good for that.)

Plenty of other interesting posts on the forums by published authors, scriptwriters, people 'in the biz' and whatnot too about the situation and why they believe the ending doesn't work, but threads right now get buried fast so you'd need to do some digging.

Finding out about Forbes video game articles is probobly the best thing about this whole situation. I guess this is what it feels like when actual journalists write about games!

Most of the complaints were about the fact that the ending was gritty (as much as I've read from the user comments on gamespot, gamebanshee and here), and the ending is nonsensical depending on the person, for me it was ok in making sense.

Most of the complaints I've read are more about the ending having nothing to do with the series thematically, being badly set up and written (introducing new characters and concepts minutes before the credits), boiling down to "press A, B, or C" which the devs specifically said they wouldn't do, your choices over the past 3 games not really impacting it at all, that all the endings are basically the same, that it doesn't actually offer any closure for a series people have invested hundreds of hours and dollars into.

It's the equivalent of Return of the Jedi ending with "...and rocks fell on them and they all died."

[Darkmere]

Also, some comments from the director:
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/324/index/10089946

I do agree with most of what he said, especially the parts about all of ME3 being the ending(s) we've worked for in 1 and 2. However:

Spoiler: Why none of the endings make sense (click to show/hide)

Changing the premise of a universe after the last enemy is killed is simply bad form. Anyway, let's take the ending("s") at face value, and ignore all the unfortunate implications that the Sword fleet all got stranded/Shepard forced the galaxy to hybridize after fighting that same outcome for 3 games/whatever else.

IF everything proceeded exactly as shown:
Hackett contacts Shepard saying the Crucible isn't working. Shepard grunts something. A few minutes later, the citadel unfolds... for some reason. The next thing we see after Casper's spiel is the Normandy running away, and we find out that our crew was on board. Yay! So... Hackett ordered the Normandy to make a VERY fast extraction from the heart of the worst part of the ground war, while the Sword fleet is still defending the crucible, to pick up squaddies who should be dead (all of Hammer gets "wiped out" trying to reach the teleport laser) and then orders a retreat from the battle that's the only hope of ending the war/cycle of extinction?

Seems like it'd take one reaper one good laser shot to destroy the crucible (at the very least to break its connection with the citadel, which has been rebuilt before), and that would be the end for everyone. Why abandon it? ESPECIALLY if you're the admiral in charge of the entire fleet protecting the one hope anyone has of winning for good.

Also, you spend all the time and effort to get the "best ending" where Shepard wakes up in a pile of rubble. Great. But that negates the part where s/he died, to make the first parts of the ending. In other words, the best ending negates the entire endgame sequence. That's meta as hell. From the above interview though, I'm sure we can look forward to buying the "What Really Happened" DLC.

[catoblepas]

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/03/16

"And it's your birthday, Shephard! The Krogan baked you a cake!" is one of the best lines ever.

Penny Arcade sucks. They are completely sold to the video game industry. Besides, most people aren't asking for a happy ending, but for a ending that make sense.

I will say, that was a pretty condescending comic. Made me lose more than a little bit of respect for penny arcade right there.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

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I think you're all crazy. I liked ME3, and I liked ME3's endings. There should have been a better epilogue segment for what happens to everyone because of Shepard's choice, but the choices themselves are just fine in my eyes.

[Xanatos Jr.]

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I think you're all crazy. I liked ME3, and I liked ME3's endings. There should have been a better epilogue segment for what happens to everyone because of Shepard's choice, but the choices themselves are just fine in my eyes.

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You like the endings? Fine, glad you enjoy them, but we don't. Doesn't make us "crazy."

[Silfurdreki]

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I don't have so many issues with the endings themselves, synthesis, destruction or control of the reapers are all fine endings, even if they might be a little simplistic for a game built on player choices all the way through. What I have a problem with is the herpa derp reason you are given for the reapers' existence:

'So we realized synthetics will always rebel against their creators and want to kill them' Didn't the game itself go to great lengths justifying the Geth rebellion as a war for survival, and how they specifically didn't want to destroy the Quarians?

They then continue with this gem: 'So we built a race of giant sentient (synthetic) spaceships that swoop in and kill all advanced organic life every 50 000 years, so that they can't build synthetics'. I mean come on! That's like if a UN peacekeeping mission was to completely wipe out both sides in a war so they'd stop killing each other

Also, everything that happens after the Citadel starts exploding/closes up is pretty random and comes out of nowhere.

[Darkmere]

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It's almost like they designed the ending to have significant emotional impact, except they didn't bother making rational sense. Then they copy/pasted a palette swap and shipped it. I'm still inclined to believe this was a budget/polish issue, what with the general drop in quality assurance in 3. I've had more problems with minor glitches/oddities/bugs in 3 than in the other two games combined, by far. Oh and "the best possible ending can be achieved by playing the campaign only" was a blatant lie, as far as I can tell.