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[Cthulhu]

They said they would do something as part of advertisement for a product being sold and they didn't.  Welcome to violations of business law.

And yeah, it's only a few minutes of the game, and yeah, most of the rest of the game is decent at worst, but that doesn't change the fact that the end is objectively bad and has no closure. 

None of your choices have any influence on the ending.  The ending happens the way it does no matter what you did previously.

No character arcs conclude to any satisfactory degree.  Shepard's is the only one that concludes at all.

There's no difference between the endings aside from superficial differences.  An expansion to the ending could at least improve this by showing how things played out, but as it is, there's no difference.

It's basically the biggest copout I've ever seen, storywise.

[Kilroy the Grand]

So basicaly they told they will do something and they didn't. Welcome to the human race.


Also, it's true that journalists are mostly sold out, but you can't blame them, they can't bite the only hand that is feeding them.

"Oh, you were told your car got 32mpg, but actually gets 16? Oh well

You can't blame car magazines, or reviewers they can't bite the hand that feeds them."

You can think that, but some people are opposed to holding their buttcheeks open while being hatefucked.

[fenrif]

So basicaly they told they will do something and they didn't. Welcome to the human race.


Also, it's true that journalists are mostly sold out, but you can't blame them, they can't bite the only hand that is feeding them.

Someone doesn't like a game you like. Welcome to the human race. (Marginalising someones entire argument without actually responding to any of it is fun AND easy!)

Calling them journalists is an insult to real journalists. And while I understand the situation they're in, I can certainly still blame them for engendering said same situation.

[scriver]

"Oh, you were told your car got 32mpg, but actually gets 16? Oh well

You can't blame car magazines, or reviewers they can't bite the hand that feeds them."

You can think that, but some people are opposed to holding their buttcheeks open while being hatefucked.

Please refrain from comparing being tricked and/or fraud to rape, thank you.

[Kilroy the Grand]

"Oh, you were told your car got 32mpg, but actually gets 16? Oh well

You can't blame car magazines, or reviewers they can't bite the hand that feeds them."

You can think that, but some people are opposed to holding their buttcheeks open while being hatefucked.

Please refrain from comparing being tricked and/or fraud to rape, thank you.

It's not rape when both parties are consenting. And I never used the word rape.

[Cthulhu]

It's still a ridiculous and obscene metaphor

[Kilroy the Grand]

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[fenrif]

All the best metaphors are ridiculous and obscene. For that matter, all the best anything is ridiculous and obscene.

[Domenique]

So basicaly they told they will do something and they didn't. Welcome to the human race.


Also, it's true that journalists are mostly sold out, but you can't blame them, they can't bite the only hand that is feeding them.

"Oh, you were told your car got 32mpg, but actually gets 16? Oh well

You can't blame car magazines, or reviewers they can't bite the hand that feeds them."

You can think that, but some people are opposed to holding their buttcheeks open while being hatefucked.

First of all, a car is a much bigger investment. Second of all, the game was fine, except the ending. The "choices matter'' actually made into the game, just in a half-assed manner of some "assets".

Nice comparison.

I would be fine if you guys said you were dissapointed with the ending, or with the game as a whole, and your opinion is right to you. But you just go on whining and whining about it. Maybe I can't blame you, you guys obviously grew up in greenhouse environment, where everything is put on a bloody plate for you and like cats you start screaming and biting if the hand stroking you goes one milimeter wrong. Instead of just trying to get the best out of something you paid for. I grew up with spoiled relatives and I definately see that in all of those who are bitching about this shit instead of stating that they're unsatisfied and moving on to do something worthwile. Final Fantasy VII had a much worse ending, but I didn't see anybody stick up a dynamite up his ass and exploding with shit all over the internet. What's with the Y generation.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

I don't know why people dislike ME1s inventory system, I still hope they bring it back to ME3. ME2s inventory was the worst shit EVER.

[Kilroy the Grand]

So basicaly they told they will do something and they didn't. Welcome to the human race.


Also, it's true that journalists are mostly sold out, but you can't blame them, they can't bite the only hand that is feeding them.

"Oh, you were told your car got 32mpg, but actually gets 16? Oh well

You can't blame car magazines, or reviewers they can't bite the hand that feeds them."

You can think that, but some people are opposed to holding their buttcheeks open while being hatefucked.

First of all, a car is a much bigger investment. Second of all, the game was fine, except the ending. The "choices matter'' actually made into the game, just in a half-assed manner of some "assets".

Nice comparison.

I would be fine if you guys said you were dissapointed with the ending, or with the game as a whole, and your opinion is right to you. But you just go on whining and whining about it. Maybe I can't blame you, you guys obviously grew up in greenhouse environment, where everything is put on a bloody plate for you and like cats you start screaming and biting if the hand stroking you goes one milimeter wrong. Instead of just trying to get the best out of something you paid for. I grew up with spoiled relatives and I definately see that in all of those who are bitching about this shit instead of stating that they're unsatisfied and moving on to do something worthwile. Final Fantasy VII had a much worse ending, but I didn't see anybody stick up a dynamite up his ass and exploding with shit all over the internet. What's with the Y generation.

Why yes, everything was put on my plate. Why I remember the glorious time when my family was on food stamps and we had no income, because my mother's work was holding her pay. Yes, quite nice in fact.

Why should I have to try to make the best out of a product? A product that was falsely advertised, and was heralded as one of the greatest RPGs of all time.

Maybe Domenique you grew up in a household were you burned $60 for fun, other people didn't have that privilege.

[fenrif]

I would be fine if you guys said you were dissapointed with the ending, or with the game as a whole, and your opinion is right to you. But you just go on whining and whining about it. Maybe I can't blame you, you guys obviously grew up in greenhouse environment, where everything is put on a bloody plate for you and like cats you start screaming and biting if the hand stroking you goes one milimeter wrong. Instead of just trying to get the best out of something you paid for. I grew up with spoiled relatives and I definately see that in all of those who are bitching about this shit instead of stating that they're unsatisfied and moving on to do something worthwile. Final Fantasy VII had a much worse ending, but I didn't see anybody stick up a dynamite up his ass and exploding with shit all over the internet. What's with the Y generation.

Conversely I had a bigoted hate-filled asshole of a Grandad who dispised anyone and everything for being different from himself, I see all of that in you.

You're basically just personally attacking people for having different opinions now, while whining about people complaining about a game you like. You flat out refuse to engage with anything anyone says except on the most superficial level so you can make broad statements about everyone who didn't like the game in an attempt to belittle them so their opinions seem less valid somehow.

We get it. You really like this game. Now shush and stop whining and whining about it.

[Cthulhu]

Sorry Domenique, I didn't realize we weren't allowed to discuss aspects of the game we didn't like.

The title of the thread isn't "What You Liked About Mass Effect 3."  We're discussing the ending, and how we didn't like it.

[Microcline]

So basically they told they will do something and they didn't. Welcome to the human race.


Also, it's true that journalists are mostly sold out, but you can't blame them, they can't bite the only hand that is feeding them.

"Oh, you were told your car got 32mpg, but actually gets 16? Oh well

You can't blame car magazines, or reviewers they can't bite the hand that feeds them."

You can think that, but some people are opposed to holding their buttcheeks open while being hatefucked.

First of all, a car is a much bigger investment. Second of all, the game was fine, except the ending. The "choices matter'' actually made into the game, just in a half-assed manner of some "assets".

Nice comparison.

I would be fine if you guys said you were disappointed with the ending, or with the game as a whole, and your opinion is right to you. But you just go on whining and whining about it. Maybe I can't blame you, you guys obviously grew up in greenhouse environment, where everything is put on a bloody plate for you and like cats you start screaming and biting if the hand stroking you goes one millimeter wrong. Instead of just trying to get the best out of something you paid for. I grew up with spoiled relatives and I definitely see that in all of those who are bitching about this shit instead of stating that they're unsatisfied and moving on to do something worthwhile. Final Fantasy VII had a much worse ending, but I didn't see anybody stick up a dynamite up his ass and exploding with shit all over the internet. What's with the Y generation.

If we aren't focused on the awful ending, what are we supposed to focus on?  The content cut for day 1 DLC?  The smear campaign against anyone criticizing the game?  The fact that it installs spyware on your computer?  The popamole shooting galleries?  The rigid separation of story and gameplay?  The fact that someone thought that a space ninja with bullshit plot armor was a good villain that fit with the setting?  The fact that the game played out exactly the same regardless of choices made?

If we are treating gaming as a business, their treatment of their customers is unforgivable.  If we are treating it as an art, their reaction to criticism has ensured that like Buckley and Shyamalan they will stagnate, never realizing their flaws and seeking improvement.  As Erik Kain puts it in this article,

If anything, acts of gamer “entitlement” are mostly attempts at giving second or third chances to a developer or publisher. It’s a customer basically telling you exactly what’s wrong with your product before saying “We won’t buy your product ever again!”

That sort of information strikes me as quite useful, actually. Almost the sort of data you might pay for. But I’ve never been a big believer in the value of yes-men.

The "entitled" people complaining are the ones who think Bioware might still be capable of producing a decent product.  The ones who understand the extent of Bioware's hubris have already boarded the lifeboats and departed.

Also, you may want to drop the pretense that the "entitlement" argument is anything but a joke.  In a competitive environment, consumers are right to feel entitled to an outstanding commitment to service, as otherwise they are free to move to the competitors.  EA's inability to understand this has come around to bite them in the ass, and it could very well happen to sites such as IGN and Kotaku.

[Sergius]

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I love how you feel the need to insult everyone who dislikes the game's ending. Now THAT's juvenile.