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[Virtz]

Uh. And Oblivion and FO3 were different how? They had blatantly console-oriented interfaces.

they aren't and that's the problem, FO3 atleast made up for it with an amazing story line and great dcl.  Oblivion was ok with mods.

FO3 and amazing story line? It was total copy-pasta of the FO1 and FO2 storylines with Liam Neeson added in.

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You've got the forcefully transfered BOS, a water supply problem and a super mutant problem like in FO1 (even though it's like a hundred years later and it doesn't make sense). And you've got the Enclave making a virus to wipe out all irradiated people, like in FO2, except the one in FO3 is hillariously ineffective compared to the one in FO2 despite it being decades later. You've even got a super computer leading people, kinda like the super computer "emperor" in San Francisco in FO2.

The only original thing is the dad character, and you can stop caring about him half-way through the story (and that's half-way provided you didn't stumble upon him like I did).

It's far from "amazing". Bethesda's writing since Oblivion has been pretty shoddy. Though I guess people didn't play it for the writing. They just want to kill stuff and roleplay a guard.

[Jehdin]

Though I guess people didn't play it for the writing.

I don't play any game for the writing.

If I want a pre-written story, I'll watch a movie or read a book.

[LoSboccacc]

Though I guess people didn't play it for the writing.

I don't play any game for the writing.

If I want a pre-written story, I'll watch a movie or read a book.

same here. I like more micromanagement/powerlevelling/personalization than a good story. I prefer a good world, and go forth with it.

[Krelian]

the whole reincarnation story of morrowind was awesome

[scriver]

Unfortunately, having a narmy story can completely ruin a game. For me at least. It's a balance between gameplay and story, really. Great gameplay gets away with crappy writing, great story gets away with boring game mechanics. Fallout 3 and Oblivion excelled at neither.

[Cecilff2]

the whole reincarnation story of morrowind was awesome

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Even better was that you aren't necessarily Nerevar reborn.  Azura uses you to get what she wants, and even helps out Dagon too.

[LoSboccacc]

the whole reincarnation story of morrowind was awesome

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Even better was that you aren't necessarily Nerevar reborn.  Azura uses you to get what she wants, and even helps out Dagon too.

I killed her afterward, for a good measure.

[Cheese]

Also, RPS has a Skyrim E3 article up. Mainly a recap of things we already know, though.

This re-affirms my faith, I went a bit blind with the whole lead console thing. Apparently it will still look better on the PC as well, though I'm not sure if they just meant that we can turn AA on.

Also, guys, calm down with your arguments. You can argue, just tone down the profanity and flaming. Some people know less about the series than others, don't call them out on that, but the people claiming they know more than they do should really stop.

[Africa]

the whole reincarnation story of morrowind was awesome

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Even better was that you aren't necessarily Nerevar reborn.  Azura uses you to get what she wants, and even helps out Dagon too.

That sums up one of the primary reasons why Morrowind is great. There's the whole "or is it" quality to not only the main storyline, but literally ALL the accounts of history you encounter in the game. Not only are multiple conflicting versions of history presented, but it's never made clear if one of them is correct, or which aspects of which ones are true. That's what lent it so much depth.

Also, the magic system was one thing they improved from MW to Oblivion. I can't believe skill level didn't decrease spell costs in MW....

[RF]

Also, the magic system was one thing they improved from MW to Oblivion. I can't believe skill level didn't decrease spell costs in MW....

I can't believe you can cast 5 spells as a high level mage in Oblivion and be out of mana. :p

[Africa]

Having mana recharge in Oblivion was also a huge improvement. In MW you basically just had to play as the Atronach and chug potions if you wanted to be a wizard.

[Mindmaker]

That's why alchemy was so darn useful.
Well I didn't have that problem. Always was a hybrid in MW.

[Sergius]

the whole reincarnation story of morrowind was awesome

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Even better was that you aren't necessarily Nerevar reborn.  Azura uses you to get what she wants, and even helps out Dagon too.

That sums up one of the primary reasons why Morrowind is great. There's the whole "or is it" quality to not only the main storyline, but literally ALL the accounts of history you encounter in the game. Not only are multiple conflicting versions of history presented, but it's never made clear if one of them is correct, or which aspects of which ones are true. That's what lent it so much depth.

Also, the magic system was one thing they improved from MW to Oblivion. I can't believe skill level didn't decrease spell costs in MW....

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I believe it is one of the Ashlanders themselves that explain to you in Morrowind that the Prophecy wasn't a "prediction" that the incarnation of Nerevar will fulfill it, but that BY FULFILLING the steps of the prophecy you became the Nerevarine (so it was more a shopping list that they wanted "anybody" to do and then they'd call them the Nerevarine).

[scriver]

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I believe it is one of the Ashlanders themselves that explain to you in Morrowind that the Prophecy wasn't a "prediction" that the incarnation of Nerevar will fulfill it, but that BY FULFILLING the steps of the prophecy you became the Nerevarine (so it was more a shopping list that they wanted "anybody" to do and then they'd call them the Nerevarine).

You walk like him untill he must walk as you.

[Africa]

the whole reincarnation story of morrowind was awesome

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Even better was that you aren't necessarily Nerevar reborn.  Azura uses you to get what she wants, and even helps out Dagon too.

That sums up one of the primary reasons why Morrowind is great. There's the whole "or is it" quality to not only the main storyline, but literally ALL the accounts of history you encounter in the game. Not only are multiple conflicting versions of history presented, but it's never made clear if one of them is correct, or which aspects of which ones are true. That's what lent it so much depth.

Also, the magic system was one thing they improved from MW to Oblivion. I can't believe skill level didn't decrease spell costs in MW....

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I believe it is one of the Ashlanders themselves that explain to you in Morrowind that the Prophecy wasn't a "prediction" that the incarnation of Nerevar will fulfill it, but that BY FULFILLING the steps of the prophecy you became the Nerevarine (so it was more a shopping list that they wanted "anybody" to do and then they'd call them the Nerevarine).

Once again: that's part of what's great about Morrowind. Maybe the Ashlanders are right; maybe they don't know what the hell they're talking about either; maybe they're manipulating you into doing something via an ancient myth - who knows?